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#34 - Deacon Gary Rudemiller

• Deacon Tim Stout, Deacon Dallas Kelley, Father Linh Nguyen • Season 2 • Episode 6

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The Deacons sat down with Deacon Gary Rudemiller to discuss his faith journey, his career, and his ministries including St. Luke's in Nicholasville, Benedictus, and Legatus. it was a great discussion and we think you will enjoy it.

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Tim Stout:

Hey, welcome to car dome studio in Georgetown, Kentucky. It's April 23 2021. Friday, the third week of Easter. And you are tuned in the deacons, discussions and drinks.

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Tim Stout:

Hey, good evening, everybody. Welcome to triple D lab from Khartoum studio in Georgetown. For what we hope so good, exciting discussion. I'm Deacon Tim Stout. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. I did it again. I'm Deacon Tim Stout.

Dallas Kelley:

I'm Deacon Dallas Kelly.

Tim Stout:

Welcome to the show. Hey, if you're joining us on Facebook or YouTube, YouTube, hit that like button, subscribe the bell. Whatever you're watching on. Make sure that happens. Hey, tonight's guest. We're going right to the guest. Steve, you ready for that? Is Deacon Gary? rude. Miller. Welcome to the show, Gary.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Thank you. It's good to be here. I appreciate.

Tim Stout:

Yeah. What's the bell ringing the bell? I do. I do. Hold on. I got bell. Hold on. You ready? Ready? Stop the music first. I might like a novice tonight or what have you. Welcome to the show. Thank you. So we'll do a proper introduction here in a minute, but we're gonna go to current events because that's what we do. Right? We do current events. That's Who wants to go first?

Unknown:

I don't have one.

Dallas Kelley:

That's not a current event.

Tim Stout:

Yeah. Gary, you want to Gary's got a current event? You do? He did. He studied for the show. He knows how this works. You know? Yeah,

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

I, I do have a current event. If anybody's been following what goes on with the German Catholic Church? Oh, yeah. state of schism is quickly approaching us. It is a concern. One of the things I early on admired about Pope Francis is that he would allow us as Catholics to have conversations around controversial issues. Many, many people have always thought Oh, the Catholic Church is very suppressive. They don't allow conversations and Pope Francis would allow them and I appreciated that. But in the case of Germany, you wonder if it may have gone a little too far

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

too much compensation. You think?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Too much? Too much latitude given attitude, the nodal approach. That's a concern.

Dallas Kelley:

How many Catholics are in Germany? A lot.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

So what is it to make sure people know what you're talking about?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Well, the German Catholic Church has always in Germany, the government collects a church tax. And the Lutheran Church is supported by this government church tax in the Catholic Church is supported by the government church tax. And so there there is a dependency on on the the church tax by these churches for their revenue, and citizens have the choice whether or not to pay the church tax. Many years ago, everybody would pay the church tax. That's not so much the case today. So what could be what could be at the root of some of the issue around the scinote approach, and wanting to keep some of the progressive movements in the German culture in the churches stable, so to speak, could be could be some of the financial issues related to revenue loss from the church tax. I'm not an expert on it, but the situation now with the The German bishops pursuing this anodal approach, and Pope Francis has been discouraging it. But the progress in this little direction is a concern because if it progresses, it could lead to schism. And that would not be good for him or be more tangible and concrete.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

What are they proposing that Pope Francis on?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Well, I, you're asking me to give details that I'm probably not qualified to give but your progressive social issues are things that are at the forefront here. giving giving communion to divorced and remarried Catholics who haven't had the cream of knowledge declared, giving communion to non Catholics. Some of the LGBTQ issues lessening of same sex

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

marriage couple,

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

yeah, those are progressive issues that are, are in the front and center of what's going on in the German Catholic church. And there is a I don't know the name of it, there is a lay organization that is aligned with the bishops pushing the progressive issues. And I really don't know the degree to which the Catholics in Germany are separated along lines. I don't know what level of of, of Catholics in Germany adhere to the long standing tradition of the church in which are pushing the progressive issues. I don't know the split there, but it is a concern. It's a concern for all of us. Certainly.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

We interesting conversation. No,

Tim Stout:

no controversial issues in the states related today that stuff. Right, Dallas. Just everything's hunky dory in the church and in the US. Not I just read read something today, where I'm gonna get it wrong. Bishop Supachai wrote a letter to one of the bishops about his stance on communion. I can't remember the specifics now. But it was interesting that he wrote a letter and then the bishop responded to him and basically clarified his position. But I guess that's that happens all the time. Right?

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Oh, yeah. Bishop communicate with each other. But do

Tim Stout:

they do it publicly, although

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

some decide to make more public because the other Bishop perhaps already make a public statement. This is create an public controversial conversations. I want to make a more public address on that. Yeah, they do. They do.

Tim Stout:

It seems like that they would get it figured out when they're meeting. I mean, I come in I know Gary does, too. We'll talk about your background a little bit. But from, from a business perspective, from a manufacturing business perspective, you always want to have this united front, right. You want to whatever your values are, whatever your position is, you might battle it out in the in the meeting room, in the boardroom, whatever, but when you go out to the troops, they know where you stand. There's no there's no controversy, but the

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

for me, it's great. I think you have to look at this whole Coronavirus, right. Everything people kind of bogged down crippled by this virus in everything that we do. This kind of controversial is great from within the life of the Jordan. So there's a lot more important issues when to deal with instead as Coronavirus, right. And I I excited I read in an article from the register and they talk about this they talk about we have an opportunity by this Coronavirus how to make things more exciting. You know, we love to live upon pride of the COVID we live this the status quo, right? We have enough people for the church, okay? We worry about the budget great. People give money or not great, but now we're gonna face what I ain't gonna charge anymore. You better do something about that. So, it caused us to go to the core, I think of what how we excite people about Jesus Christ. And it's not the job of priests or deacons. But every one of us either from social media the stuff that we are doing here you know, I'll go to the bar and get people excited about it. You know everything and I think that's a big things that we need to consider. You know,

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

I think this thought crossed my mind last week and call it divine inspiration. Maybe maybe not maybe I'm just nuts, but there may be there may be a God at work in this Coronavirus from the standpoint of, you know, we live in a technological world where levels of communication aren't so much verbal anymore. You know, you'll see people sitting at the dinner table doing this and you'll see teenagers doing They're not talking to each other but doing this to each other. And we've lost that sense of communication. We've lost that sense of community. And and what's happened since Coronavirus, is it? I think right now people are thirsting for relationships. They're thirsting to be with people. And maybe this is the silver lining around this cloud called Coronavirus, is we now appreciate relationships, we appreciate conversation. We appreciate being with others in ways perhaps in the past we've taken for granted. Absolutely,

Tim Stout:

I think I think we see that I think we see that a church on Sunday. Oh, yeah. You know, we we have mass outdoors every Sunday. at Easter, we had 500 600,

Dallas Kelley:

just a few short from 6605, nine eggs, something

Tim Stout:

like that, you know, when you see those families that are, you know, six feet apart from other families and stuff. And when you say, let us offer each other sign a piece and we bow. And those families, they're hugging. They're, they're glad to be with each other. Right? That to me, that's, you know, that's just a small thing, like what you're talking about, but there's a thirst, there's no doubt about it.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

What I also think it's helped people really appreciate the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. You know, we hear the maybe it was a Pew study that says 67% of Catholics don't believe in the real presence even Thank you, Chris is a symbol. But I really think when when as deacons and priests, when we are able to confer the sacrament others you can, you can see tears running down running down to their cheek, it's it really impresses upon you how much they really have missed being able to receive the sacrament regularly.

Tim Stout:

Yeah, there's no doubt we're different from other denominations, right? Oh, yeah, we're, you know, and there's a lot of people that still haven't come back to church yet. We try to invite people on this show to come back, there's the best time to come back is every day, right? So come back, if you're watching it, you haven't been back, come back. But there is this, this thing that separates us from all the others that nomination and so just a little thing called the Eucharist. And, you know, just a little, just a little, just a little thing. And, you know, it is something that that our our folks have yearn for. And, but there is there are a certain number of people that that haven't. And maybe it's that 67% that the Pew studies talking about? Because there will be we talked about yesterday, there will be a lot of folks that don't come back. Simple as that.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Right from probate, the excitement, the opportunity, right. Because during the Coronavirus, the number one criteria as the diocese as priests, Bishop Deacon, we're going to concern about how to give out communion. Oh, believe me, there are plenty of people suggested. You know, we call it a communion dispenser. You remember that that space saucer, and they sent it to me. And then you know,

Dallas Kelley:

just communion in a bag

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

coming in a bag a communion, if

Tim Stout:

somebody had like a hunger to use this beer bottle just because it's on a desk, but it was like a dispatcher, like, you push a button in it dispenses a host out of the bottom.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

It's up to catechize. Right? It's wonderful. But like, you make a comment, beautiful. You have seen it, I have seen it. Those who hunger genuinely, and for the body and blood of Jesus Christ. And that that,

Tim Stout:

that champion, you know where those people are, those are the people that are out there in 10 degree weather on Christmas Eve, those are the people out there when it's pouring down rain, and they've had a poncho on. And I'm not taking away from the people that aren't there during those times. I'm just saying that those those people have a thirst for the Eucharist. That is, you know, even beyond sometimes what I mean, even what I feel sometimes I feel like man, look at these because we're under we're inside, right? We're we're underneath. Inside a doorway, we're protected a little bit. But those folks that are out there, I mean, we're still freezing cold when we're still freezing cold, we're still frigid. But those folks are out there in the elements that are that are not in their cars. But because there's a good percentage of people that are into cars, but they're sitting there in the elements. It's an amazing testament to their faith.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Now for me, it's so amazing. I have never seen this. But those folks have a testament of martyrdom. You know, I call it the modern martyrdom, all the other first world martyrdom, if you will, they might not get the blood for it. But they are willing to stand sub zero temperature and they want Jesus they want nothing but Jesus and communion. And that is a huge testament to witnesses.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

And it helps us to remember that that the focus of the mass is not the homily. The focus of the mass is the youth

Unknown:

Oh yeah,

Tim Stout:

we can get in trouble for

Dallas Kelley:

that. We've now been through all seasons right. From blistering hot we're we're drenched in sweat to three degrees.

Tim Stout:

Steve we need to get the umbrella back out to cover the because the equipment overheats. It's so hot out there,

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

gentlemen, just BP pair the cicadas coming.

Unknown:

Oh yeah,

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

we survived the well we got the invasion of the flag. But we have not faced a cicada Jerry

Dallas Kelley:

the last two times to two weeks weeks flies have been hatching. I mean, they're everywhere. The mic is covered with

Tim Stout:

Yeah, go back and watch some of the sun on the same Facebook page or Sunday, Sunday masses on

Dallas Kelley:

Bali lands homily, he's

Tim Stout:

doing that. The whole if you look at right at that there's a windscreen on the mic on the ambo. And it's just like it looks black. But if you really look at it's all flights moving. All the joys. We didn't plan for that and information did we know. So I

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

remember I came back from my first year ordination give a talk to seminary and my talk. It was had to do with expect the unexpected. You make it happen.

Tim Stout:

Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Yes. You never know we always have something going on something different, you know, something from a technology perspective, you know, and we set up we think we set up everything the same way every time any you Same way with you right with the wind. You know, we're setting the ambo up, we're setting the altar up the wind's blowing, we're covering Jesus because, you know, we don't want Jesus blown away. It's it's a challenge. What are y'all doing for mass

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

inside, we have regulations for social distancing and for mask wearing upstairs. In the church proper, we can between the Carl choir loft, those of us in the sanctuary. And the people in the body of the church, we can fit fit about 70 people plus or minus upstairs. And in the basement, we livestream down to a big screen TV in the basement, we can sit another 50 or 60 down there. So we can we can get 130 or 140 per mass. And we have three masses each weekend and at least two of the three we do have people down in the basement. And the 730 mass on Sunday morning. Generally we don't have people down there but but over the last couple of weekends, we've had more people coming. It's good to see at St. Louis is good to see a number of people coming back truly, truly it's good to see very, very good.

Tim Stout:

And how many parishioners roughly 300 families plus or minus. So about half ourselves and that's good to hear. Good to hear is is

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

your new priests coming?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Yeah, Yes, we do. Father John's only been with us two years.

Tim Stout:

JOHN Moriarty is going to the cathedral. He's going to be the new Rector and Rector. We will have to have a show about what that means. Rector versus pastor, but just that Okay, good. Yeah. So who is your new pastor gonna be?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Father Aldrin tag. He was ordained two years ago. Filipino priest and I think will be a good fit for St. Luke's father john came in as a very good fit, and we're gonna miss him. Two years here. He's really made a lot of friends and made a lot of impact in you know, the parish had father bush for 30 years and father Bush's last couple years. We have father Ron Schmelzer. And then we have father Nick pagano. And then father john. So now for almost five years as a deacon Father ultram will be my fifth fifth. Wow.

Unknown:

So lucky.

Tim Stout:

I guess we are lucky. We've never really thought of it that way. But okay, we will

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

miss father john. He's been a very, very good addition to St. Luke's and we wish him the best of luck.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Did you take him out to play golf yet?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

We played one time. Oh, that's one time

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

you have enough with him as well. No, I

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

golf takes a lot of time. I don't have a lot of time for golf.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Although I would like to play more. But that's that's a pastoral comment.

Dallas Kelley:

A couple of comments from Janet. Great job Big brother.

Unknown:

I Oh, that's my sister Joe.

Tim Stout:

There you go see

Dallas Kelley:

from Michael Fowler recent convert and that joined for the Eucharist.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Mike, Mike, we had three candidates come in. This year. Mike was one of the one of the three and real pleasure to have him in St. Luke's.

Tim Stout:

So how did your Easter Vigil go?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

outstanding?

Tim Stout:

How many how many people came into the church

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

three. Well, two that night. Oh, the third candidate had a move to Florida that happened a month or two sooner than she really expected. So Father john brought her into the church right before Lent. But she stayed with us through the rest of the RCA prep that and she'll be during Mr. goji three candidates. Yeah,

Tim Stout:

that's good. So let's close out current events that you started us with schism and we ended up talking about your new pastor. I don't know how that how that happened, by

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

the way schism I don't know how many of you know the band tool tool schism, schism is a fabulous song just go Google schism and listen

Tim Stout:

to listen, I'm gonna put a link in the show notes to

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

the band's tool to the song schism,

Tim Stout:

the band tool schism they actually got to kind of in order to do that.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

I already did the article I read on

Dallas Kelley:

on I was busy.

Tim Stout:

What about the news out of the University of Kentucky basketball team? Oh, wow. Oh, yeah.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

I was not around what happened. So

Tim Stout:

Terrence Clark, who played this year late this year was declared for the NBA draft was killed in a traffic accident. Yesterday in Los Angeles at the age of 19.

Unknown:

God rest his soul hits,

Tim Stout:

you know, it's a didn't have a seatbelt on. tragic event, just a kid who had a great smile seemed like you know, everything you hear about him is real positive. But you know, life, life takes a lot of unexpected twists and turns sometimes, and you just never know when it's your time, you know, that's gonna call you home. So prayers for him and his family and the whole university Kentucky basketball structure organization. So hey, just if you got any questions, go ahead and put those in the comments. Dallas is in charge of the questions tonight. If you've got questions for Deacon Gary, as we go in here, I'm gonna do your formal introduction and you can fill in a little bit you sent me like, you sent me a really long introduction, so I'm not gonna read it. So I'm just gonna go with what I think is

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

on page number seven.

Tim Stout:

I was like, Okay, I know a little bit about Gary now. Hey, Gary's credo Catholic, which is always good to know he married his high school sweetheart, Doris. They've got three boys. I'm assuming they're all Catholic.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Yes. And that's that's a blessing by God. They're all men of God. They fear God they raise your family in the Catholic faith. We're very blessed.

Tim Stout:

graduate of Miami University with a BS and paper science and engineering. Another engineer on the show. Whoo. Oh, yeah.

Dallas Kelley:

Three engineers right here.

Tim Stout:

Gary also has a masters and a PhD in paper science. Where do you get those at?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

The Appleton, Wisconsin for about 50 years up in Appleton. It was a graduate school dedicated to the paper industry and about 100 people to

Tim Stout:

sound like the University of Wisconsin, this called

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

the Institute of paper chemistry. So I went there, got my masters. And I got I was intending to get a PhD. But quite honestly, I got tired of schools who went left and went moved to Virginia for three years. And then I got the itch and we went back and I got my PhD. And at that point in time, the industry will many of the headquarters were ended up in Atlanta. So they were moving the school from Wisconsin Appleton, Wisconsin to Atlanta, but I defended my thesis the day before they closed the doors in Wisconsin, so I got my master's from the Institute of paper chemistry, and I got my PhD even though I finished all my work there. I got my PhD conferred by the Institute of paper science and technology in Atlanta. I never set foot on Atlanta's campus.

Tim Stout:

Are you a cheesehead?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Oh, I'm a Packer fan. Okay. Do we call your bangles after the band

Tim Stout:

goes first? Do we call you doctor Deacon or Deacon doctor?

Dallas Kelley:

You know our doctor, Mr. Deacon

Musician:

most most mixers

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

call me for dinner. That's all

Tim Stout:

come we didn't know this through format. I

Dallas Kelley:

know he's a doctor and

Tim Stout:

neither because we'd have had a lot of fun with that information. You know that you kept it a secret, didn't you?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

It's not important.

Tim Stout:

Gary adores moved to Nicholasville in 2009 when Gary went to work for wassa wassa wassa saw paper in the tissue business. We'll we'll get back to that because I'm interested in that. You may not be down but I am interested. There are members of St. Luke and Nicholasville. And Gary was ordained a deacon in 2016. Same time as Dallas and myself. He's presently I'm jealous here semi retired. Yeah, that's good. And is the executive director of the paper science and engineering foundation at the Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. He has a consulting business and he is part owner of the Benedict his book and gifts in Lexington. He's also the program chair for the Lexington chapter of lagunitas. We'll maybe talk a little bit about that. dorsen Gary have been married for 38 years. Thank you for that. Yes, that's. That's a great vocation. Amen. And they're expecting. I'm jealous here because I have two grandkids. You're expecting your 13th grandchild and Dude, you have all their names locked in. I do. That's good. Welcome to the show, officially. Thank you very much. Awesome. I don't know where to start there. I want to talk about paper. I don't know what you what do you guys want to talk about? What about paper?

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

I want to talk about how he ended up being the is faith. be ordained as a deacon. Okay,

Tim Stout:

let's start there. So your your, your Catholic cradle Catholic?

Dallas Kelley:

Did you ever fall away? You know, I always ask cradle Catholics.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

God gives people different gifts. And my gift has always been a strong faith even though I couldn't necessarily explain it. I always knew that Catholicism was right. I always knew that it was God's gift. And, and I never drifted. I missed three Sundays of church my entire life, and through all three of them for travel. One was Junior College, four of us went up the state of Maine to camp at Acadia, and for good Catholic boys. We got up Sunday morning, went into town for church and we got there at 10 o'clock in the mass was at nine. Then the other two were international travel. So I've always had a strong faith. And in the year 2008 2007, doors and I moved to Wausau, Wisconsin. And we joined St. Matthews Parish, where father Bob Thorn was the was the pastor and a son of the parish was being ordained to transitional Deacon over in Rome because he was going to the Pontifical North American college. So people from the parish were going over there, we want to go to Rome. So we tagged along, we didn't know anybody didn't really even know father Bob, sitting at breakfast one morning over there. He said, Do you ever think of being a deacon? I said, Nope. And the conversation. That's how it happened. Two and a half years later, two and a half years later, at the goddess dinner, we're sitting with Karen rude, and Bill rude. And everybody knows that Karen's the director of liturgy and Bill's a deacon himself. And at that time, they were forming the class that we joined. And she said, You ever thought of being a deacon? I said, Nope. She said, we've got a class going right now. That's not for me. Well, the last few days before the deadline, I filled out an application is submitted, just just just to see the process. Now I make decisions pretty quickly. When I make a decision I go. My wife, Doris isn't so so much like that she likes to process and there wasn't time to process. So I filled out the application. And I told her after the fact, I've applied for the, the Aspire, so you're for the diaconate route. It took her about four years to forgive me for that. But

Dallas Kelley:

she's a blessing. And she could have said no at any time.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

And for people who are listening in the formation process, the wife has to give her approval three times throughout that process, before ordination. And every time she did Thank you doors

Tim Stout:

in a handwritten note has to be in a handwritten note. So we couldn't fake it right. We could write it for him.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Tim and Dallas bribe their wife. I do have evidence and we

Tim Stout:

just signed the papers. I think he told us No. Did they

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

did they say no.

Tim Stout:

You know, you got to get your pastors permission. Right? Yeah, yeah. So we asked for our prayer pastors permission he said no. He wanted to see if we were serious, I think so you go off to Rome. You see some stuff over there plants to see you get back here and the goddess plant other seed is planted. You fill out the form and then you get into it and you're like what? Wow. Or what did I get myself into? This you know Dallas will tell you when you hear Dallas was calling his his his voice right? You heard a calling man like that. Your sounds like it's yours is more like my than

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

I've never had a two by four over the head kind of moment. My faith life. It's always been just a little urging respiration that over time germinates and foments and grows and I remember when I talked to Bishop Gaynor and during our aspirants here as a bishop, how, how will I know if I'm called to be a deacon, he said you won't know until I lay my hands on you at ordination. And it was truly almost like that, because it wasn't until probably about two months before nation that I felt Yes, this is right up until that time you're questioning is this right for me. Am I supposed to be doing this? Because I wanted to be a genuine call. Right? I mean, I'm subject to hubris scab. the sin of pride is my my base in pride. And so for the first six months in aspirants, see, I didn't tell anybody outside of my wife and father Bush, because I didn't want anybody patting me on the back. So Oh, good job, that's a good thing to do. No, that's, that would be a false a false reason. I want to make sure it was a genuine call. And so during the entire process, you're just asking yourself, Is this a genuine call? You spent five years asking yourself, Is this a genuine call? And it wasn't until two months before ordination? I felt Yes. This is a genuine call.

Tim Stout:

And I don't think a lot of people realize that all the way through the process. You're you have questions in your head, right?

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Yeah, we all did, right. But it's all we call you to trust it right? That's the only piece that keep us alive. It took Trusting whatever will come will become

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

right. If it's meant to be

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

God will make it happen. Yeah. Yeah, it's

Tim Stout:

it was a challenge. I mean, we, you know, we all we both get down I actually had an event through our, through that process where we felt like the devil was attacking us. Right, right. Do you ever have one of those?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Oh, me personally No, but the devil, the devil was after doors, okay. Yeah, I've got two or three examples of as we're approaching ordination, she had experiences, our fire alarms or fire alarms will go off always when I went out of town for business trips. Okay, and, and interestingly, Father Ron Schmelzer before he passed away, he had let me borrow the sick the 12 CDs from the 2009 Conference on on deliverance ministry that they have a mundelein Okay, and we listened to all 12 of those CDs. And on the very last CD, is among other father Bob Thorn, because he's will leave it I can't tell that piece. But also on the very last CD a guy was talking about Yeah, and you know, the people who were doing the wedding formation for the couples always liked it when our Deacon class was in the very center, because things like fire alarms going off wouldn't happen. And hit us like a ton of bricks, wow. Because you know, fire alarms would go off in our house when I wasn't around, adores, would love to deal with it. She'd wake up at night and hear scratching on the screen, in shows you go over throw holy water on the on the screen, you know, just stuff like that. And so the devil was after her more so than me.

Tim Stout:

You know, we've told our stories before it's real. People look at you, like you're crazy are so late. But But,

Dallas Kelley:

you know, you said CDs. And I remember I had forgotten all about an event. One of the things that happened, and I'll go through it real quick, because this is we're talking about you. But one of the things I remember when I felt called I said, You know, I can't even convince my wife. I mean, I literally had a conversation with God, I can't even convince my wife of the Catholic faith and, and you're calling me to the diagonal? Well, within a few days, she came to me and said she wanted to become Catholic. Awesome. But she said when she asked me that, she said, Do you have any CDs I can listen to. I've got tons of CD, books and CD that. So I gave her a big stack of CDs, and she would listen to them in her car. But she started putting the first one in her car. And the second when she came to me and she said, they're all blank. There's nothing on him. So I went out our car, every CD I gave her was blank, nothing. No words, just total silence. You don't have to go over a bunch, a whole bunch

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

of people, people, people think that the devil is a fabrication, right? of people. There's no such thing as a devil. But any true there are such things as a devil. One of the things I enjoy my dakine is being able to go bless people's homes. And there are a lot of funny things going on rooms that get cold things falling off the shelves of stuff flying through the air. And I have had people tell me, after they've left their homes, weeks later, that stuff has stopped. And it just, it just conveys to me the power that we as, as clergy, clergy is ordained clerics who have been given faculties by God. Right? We do have, we do have the ability to help people who are in dire straits with spiritual issues, as it's a powerful reminder of what we've been given in accepting this vocation.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

That's awesome.

Tim Stout:

that's a that's a that's a it's a powerful thing. When you witness it, right? When you go through it, it just, it's scary, really it is but you gotta have you gotta have your faith to fall back on to and and know that like God's gonna provide for us. Always. So faith journey. What else we need to talk about on your faith journey. So your called your you're getting ready to experience your fifth year right? We're getting ready to go up on number five,

Unknown:

June, June.

Tim Stout:

What's the most exciting thing about your ministry?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

The things that I there are some things I really do enjoy. One is being able to help people along the sacramental journey. Not all Catholics received sacraments on time, right? I mean, I have helped an adult man about 40 years old who never received confirmation I helped him go through the process to be confirmed. Couples who have been married civilly but not sacramentally. In the United States, we get married in a Catholic Church and that counts for civil and sacramental marriage. But in countries like Mexico and the Cameroon's you get married civilly, and then you have to go get married in the church. Well, sometimes they don't make it to the church. For a variety of reasons, so you get to do the marriage preparation and can validate their marriage. So that kind of sacramental PrEP is joyful because you see how much it means to people. I enjoy serving Hispanic community at St. Luke's we have a Hispanic community. You know, in high school, I took three years of Spanish and that was 40 years 45 years ago. And I spent the last three or four years slowly relearning it so that I can be here we go, here we go. Here we go.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Make sure pass it on to my Deacon. And they somehow kinda Thanks,

Unknown:

Gary wash

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

away from that responsibility. They have no accountability. But you know,

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

people, people who are our age, in the Hispanic community, people our age, aren't going to spend a lot of time learning English. people our age aren't going to spend a lot of time learning Spanish head on not taking three years of Spanish and remembered how to pronounce the word remember how to read them. I had to relearn what the words meant. But I hadn't lost the fundamentals. So it made it less cumbersome for me. Yeah, there you get back in the year,

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

they both are never last. well educated people. French, French, French, Spanish are similar.

Tim Stout:

Pretty much not the same thing. You

Dallas Kelley:

know how bad my memory is? There's no way I can

Tim Stout:

preach in Spanish.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

See? Wow, I have to read it. Right. I read it in English, I translate it and I read it. Because I don't I don't even give hominis in English. off the cuff. I rehearse them. Because you know, when when you when you're taking pastoral responsibility for the faith of the community, you want to make sure you don't slip up. And I'm no expert in the kill. Yeah, we have an integrate program here called preaching, sharing.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Yes. So he didn't come here to preach in Spanish. And I said Deacon Tim over there, just speaking.

Dallas Kelley:

It just started tonight. This is this is the first time we're doing it.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

And then the last thing that there's one other thing I really do enjoy about being a deacon is at the Easter Vigil mass. I love to sing the exalted. Oh, he won't ever let me sing

Unknown:

it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

I look. No one would mistake me as an opera singer. But my voice is good enough to sing the Exalted and I'm

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

thinking, Gary, I'm telling you the last time we have a video, of course, we all have a program. I always type out what you want to do. And I say exalted one of your deacons go ahead and do it. Guess what?

Tim Stout:

My answer will receive nothing. No one answered. Deacon john did two years ago they could or three years ago, they could skipped it two years ago.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

And now they can Tim and Deacon Dallas.

Tim Stout:

I did it last year. You did?

Dallas Kelley:

Yeah. Tim did he recited it. He did. He did and I can recite it anytime. You may.

Tim Stout:

Gary, I didn't know you were gonna blow us up with the exalted

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

witness. Oh. Thanks. So basically, it's a role in making, right?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Yes. But also, you know, on the Hispanic community, one thing I think is important for people to think about what I have experienced. No matter how, how good your Spanish is, or not, the community appreciates being reached out to exactly yeah. And Father john, one of the things that Father john has done marvelously in his time as St. Luke's he doesn't speak a lick of Spanish. But he comes, he greets the people. And he'll talk to them. And they I don't know if they understand what are you saying, but they appreciate the reach out. And so we have we have a rotation of priests every month to do the do the Spanish mass at St. Luke's. The first the first Sunday of every month is father john in English. So he'll do all his parts in English. And we'll do all the other stuff in Spanish will proclaim the word in Spanish I'll preach in Spanish, but everything that the priest does is in English. And then the other the other three or four Sundays we have we have priests come and speak in Spanish, but the community loves the mass. English, Spanish, it's not truly bilingual. But father john does his parts in English, everybody else responds in Spanish. And that's a favorite match for a lot of people because the willingness, the willingness

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

to read, and I remember father john came to me there was a push is amazing. When a bishop can speak Spanish, all the sudden everybody feels they have to speak Spanish. And Father john came to me when I say john, listen, none of us have a gift to speak a second language. So don't worry about it. The genuineness of who you present who you are. That's what people love you. So john exercise, I'm glad to do that. I'm glad he exercised that. You know, don't worry about it just being there.

Tim Stout:

You know, whoever what other deacons are, are there with you.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Right now, David James. He was just ordained a deacon last June. So when I was ordained shortly after I was ordained. We had Fourth Deacon incardinated. We have four deacons for about the first year and a half. And then within a six week period, we went from four to one. So for two and a half years, I was only Deacon until David got ordained last June. So it's nice to have a second Deacon available.

Tim Stout:

Well, you know, we're gonna start a new program too, because it's the well what we're gonna send our pastor, he speaks Spanish, we'll send him over there. You said your pastor overdue English over here? How about that? We're gonna start these programs. Let's start.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Let's do it. Well, you know, Pastor, he can speak

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Spanish. And speaks Yes,

Unknown:

yeah.

Tim Stout:

Yeah. He's young guy, right. Just been ordained a couple years ago. I think I ran into him a few times. It's a matter and when I was working on webmaster, it was it was the same manner. Yes. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. Good. So I think you guys are gonna be in good shape. So how's father john gonna be as Rector at the cathedral? Only God. Thanks, thank. You don't want that job. Is that one of those jobs that nobody wants? Just because it's just such so big a parish? And?

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

No. Yeah, the bigger the parish, so much headache. You know, yeah.

Tim Stout:

Yeah, Enough said about that. Let's, let's move on. Let's move on. Hey, let's, let's talk about the paper business. And I'm going to give a tie in here because we just had Earth Day. And it just occurred to me as I was preparing my notes for this, that paper is is like the original recycled product in it.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Absolutely.

Tim Stout:

So tell us about paper. Well, let's start as effortless.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

You know, the paper industry for many, many years has has been woefully poor at marketing itself. Okay. But if you stop today and take a look at the concept of sustainability, environmental stewardship, people wanting to ensure that, that the world is here 50 years from now, right so that their grandkids can enjoy it. Cellulose fiber fiber comes from trees, right. And it's, it's a, it's a natural, raw material that you replant you regrow it, it's replenished. So you don't have to worry about trees running out. In fact, today, there are probably gonna get the number wrong, but it's like 18 million more acres more Hector's printed, planted today with trees and back in 1990. Okay,

Tim Stout:

so we're planting a lot of trees.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

And if you think about it, any paper company or forestry company has to take care of the raw material. So they are going to be responsible about planting and harvesting in a sustainable fashion. There are certification agencies that validate the the stewardship of the forests by how the trees are planted and harvested and there's a chain of custody all the way through the paper produced on the real the paper machine for all that fiber. So from an environmental standpoint, in terms of sustainability in terms of responsibility and stewardship of the forest chain of custody for the fiber, water treatment, water goes back into the rivers clean, and then it comes out in many places. energy usage, because integrated paper mills generate almost all their energy through the through burning off the portions of wood that don't turn into fiber. And then in the year 2019 have the millions of tonnes produced in the United States. 68% of those tons were recovered and uses recycled paper. Wow. So a cellulose fiber can be reused seven times before it loses the strength properties. So in terms of sustainability and environmental stewardship, the paper industry is better position than probably any other industry in the United States.

Tim Stout:

Is this probably recycled?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

No, that'd be 100% version right there. Probably. I can you tell by by the application of the paper? Oh, gotcha. Yeah, this is a repor graphic paper and unless there are government mandates for recycle usage in this type of product, there's probably not going to be much recycled fiber.

Tim Stout:

So when we were going through formation, you were working. It was awesome. What were you guys making there?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

So I was VP of operations for that business unit and I had the facility in Harrisburg, Kentucky and in Middletown, Ohio. Middletown is where we made the parent rolls on to paper machines shipped and down to Harrisburg was at that time, just a converting facility. But then in 2010 1112, we did a $210 million expansion down there and put a new world class structure tissue machine down there. tissue to sites, let's tissue paper towel. tissue and what's tissue paper.

Tim Stout:

What's the tissue paper I

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

need to explain that to you?

Tim Stout:

It's not like toilet paper.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

tissue is toilet paper or facial.

Tim Stout:

See there you go. It and paper cool. I mean

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

if you think about this in your everyday life, you have paper all around you. You got paper in that book. We got paper here you got toilet paper, you got a microwave popcorn. bags you get for those people who still look at newspapers you've got the Amazon cardboard boxes that come to you you got painters tape, you've got the the baking paper the parchment of the pan liner that that the bakers bake on you got the the pad that the butter pad sits on a piece of paper you just papers all over the place, but people don't think of that until they really stopped labels there you go so they go to one side label on that,

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

you know it's another want to change the paper professional to a comment that we have to bring up Benedictus I love Bennett, thank

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

you when we love you, thank you but that

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

there is issues that I brought up eight years ago and I say why Benedictus not run a Bible business for all schools, all parishes in the Diocese of Lexington, supply paper supply paper. And I brought it up and of course it never goes anywhere.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Well the margins for that would be very slim, you know, there wouldn't be much money to be made. It's like school uniforms for years Benedictus handle school uniforms. And then when when when the present ownership team bought it from the diocese. At that time, the clothing had already moved out and we looked at taking it back on but there's no margin there. And and it's hard. It's hard for a struggling business to take on a huge volume of low margin. It's just it's just not worth the headache of that little margin actually.

Tim Stout:

So Benedictus. What What should parishes be bad? What should individuals be looked to be bad for Benedictus

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

everything that's Catholic everything. And so let's tell the story of Benedictus as a

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

good story.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

I think I think this is year 25 if I'm not mistaken and you're 25 years ago Jim cloud started Benedictus over on Richmond Road and then it moved to more road for a number of years and moving in our present location on Southland drive for the diocese move I think about eight years ago. And and the Catholic book and gift store it is not a retirement plan. It's a tough business. Think of it 10 years ago in this city there were six or seven maybe eight Christian brick and mortar booking gift stores. Okay, at that many

Unknown:

Yeah.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

In November 2019 LifeWay Christian, close their doors over near Fayette mall. At that point in time, Benedictus was the last brick and mortar Christian type store. Now we are authentically Catholic when when the President ownership team took it over from the diocese in June 28 of 2017. It was important to us to keep it authentically Catholic. So and now that LifeWay closed some some of the non Catholic churches do come to us for business. So we will, we will we will stock some communion cups for them. But we won't stock a King James Bible, because that's going to be too confusing for our Catholic clientele. We are a Catholic store, and we will service other Christian denominations. And they do they'll bring in their Bibles and ask us to emboss the name on the cover of the Bible, we'll do that. But you won't you won't come in and be confused over what denomination This store is. We're authentically Catholic. So about 35% of our business comes from the parishes and the other 65% from patrons. And, you know, we're proud to say in the year 2019, we got the store to breakeven, okay, well, it was a money loser. But we cut our costs by over 30%. In the first two, two and a half years, we cut our cost by over 30%. We raised our revenue by 15% to get the breakeven and then here comes COVID. Right, we've just gotten to break even Here comes COVID. So last year was extremely difficult. And you know, at our, our January meeting of our ownership team. I commented from my perspective 2020 the fact that on January one, we still had a business was a miracle. It was a miracle. Because the whole whole time throughout the year, I'm thinking boy, how are we going to survive this year, we have lost so much business, the communion wine business essentially disappeared. The church candle business cut by 30% you know, so that 35% of our business? Well, I'll tell you this. So our total sales from 2019 to 2020 dropped 18%. So we've gotten to breakeven. And in that one year, our total sales dropped 18%. But our cost didn't go down. 18% cost is still there, right? We survived by managing our costs very tightly by managing our inventory very well because you want to tie a lot of cash up in inventory, and then the PPP monies those are the reasons that we made it and and this year, you know the start of the year hasn't been as robust as we would like church business is starting to come back. I don't think we'll ever see the community wind come back. I just Don't, I don't think people are going to feel comfortable receiving from the cup, you know, the pressures go to Jesus in the cup. You know, with COVID situation and germs, I just don't see I just don't see that the candle volume we would hope will come back. The other thing we started we instituted back in 2018. And through 19 is what we call peripheral paracels. You know, for somebody out here versus somebody at Mary Queen, Mary Queen person is likely to go to the store somewhere out here, it's not going to drive that far. So, as you guys know, a couple times a year, we were bringing the store here at weekend masses. And we would do that for like 19 pair of 211 parishes that are what we call peripheral to Lexington. And that generated a significant chunk of revenue increase for us. So that was part of the revenue growth that stopped last year as well. So we want to reestablish that as people get comfortable with, with social interaction again. So we we, we think I think last year was a miracle. This year, I think it's going to start getting better as as churches begin to reopen, and people's lives begin to recoup and, you know, some people just don't want to come into the store, right? They don't want that social environment. So is that stuff begins to recover. We're hopeful that that the future of Benedictus is is is going to be there. Those of the seven the seven couples that invested invested to keep this ministry open for the diocese,

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

that's important I want you tell that story. How Benedictus was about to shut down. And as there was seven business partner want to do by Benedict is not to be profit. But one to make sure the Catholic and entity Oh identity or stay I think that's story base.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

There's no there's no retirement plan. Only one of these stores. It was a number of months ago I was talking to one of our suppliers out on the west coast and I don't talk them into our suppliers Patrick Khomeini, our store manager handles all that. But I was talking to him and he said, You know, every month, another Catholic bookstore somewhere is closing down, is it every month, I lose another customer of mine. And the fact that we're working so hard to keep it open is an important so our mission when we took over the store was to keep it open. That's it just keep it open. So each of us invested a chunk of cash to buy the store from the diocese and have working capital. And you know, if that working capital runs out, then we have one of three decisions either we put in more money. We look for another buyer or we close the store. But our conviction is to keep the store open for the Catholic community. There are many diocese in our country larger than Lexington that don't have this kind of a ministry Exactly. They don't have it. Now I say ministry, it used to be a ministry of the diocese. It is no longer when when we bought the store from the diocese it was no longer a ministry ministry but bishopstoke did give us an ecclesial approbation, which means with with the with the support of the Bishop of the Diocese of Lexington. So we are in ecclesial approbation, which is in my mind just just we're doing the same thing. We're just as

Tim Stout:

good as being a ministry. We're providing

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

the same service, the same ministry and we very much value are our patrons in our parishes who bring their business our way. We're here for the community. We're here for the community. All right. And we all we all feel very committed to that but at the seven couples that own store, we all feel very committed to that.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

I think it's very important to to talk about that I think our people need to understand this is a ministry Yeah, you know phone for me, so many time I call Benedictus a simple you know the the Grotto. Right The Grotto the beautiful image of the Virgin Mary wood there was no mayor was there would been removed. When we tried to bring him back there was a donor offer and instead tried to search well guess what I call I call Benedictus. I say okay, find me a perfect Virgin Mary image. Okay, at this price helped me up. You know within within two hours, Patrick call back and say I have this for you father to consider. And it's so beneficial. You know how many people always ask me is say I want to buy some stuff on my my grandkid First Communion. Do you know where to recommend as a call Benedictus where manages the Catholic bookstore? it more than bookstore everything you need books and gifts and gifts. Everything is right there. Near the other day. I want to buy a gift for a friend, you know, celebrate her birthday. And she's looking for an image of Saint Francis. I call Patrick of the Patrick. I need Francis outdoor BAM Got it I don't want to go anywhere far I don't want to get on Amazon I've gone and hope this image gonna look right or not you know, but there it is. I think it's so important

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

what is and people can call the store Patrick Elizabeth Joel they know how to find anything you want or they get many outlets to source things. Now if people want to shop price they'll go buy it off of Amazon but if they want to support this store so it's here for this diocese the patronize a store you know when you come in off the street you carry the stench of the world with you when you walk through that door to Benedictus you are in a holy place exactly.

Unknown:

You're in a hole totally agree

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

yes and then the music in the background since the right atmosphere all the the holy art around the Catholic books the crucifix is you know you're in a holy place

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

to wet waste located now what how people get in there

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

in their car 408 Southland drive,

Tim Stout:

and you go see Patrick Patrick, but they're

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

2223 years. Great, great

Unknown:

guy.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

So the store interesting we've got the Catholic bookstore and as you're looking at the store to the left is the liquor store. And to the right is the Muslim food store. So we're right there and in very ecumenical spirit.

Tim Stout:

We could do a lot I don't know. I don't know if the liquor stores ecumenical. That's pretty

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

good neighbors on both sides are good neighbors.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

how you spell Benedictus

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

b e and e. d ICT us okay,

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Benedict. Benedict is calm dominated.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

We have we have a website it's really informational. It's not a commercial website is Benedictus ky calm

Tim Stout:

Benedictus. ky.com

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

do you post that for people?

Tim Stout:

Yes, it is.ky comm we

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

do put out a flyer every week sometimes twice a week of Constant Contact flyer if anybody's listening and they would like to be on our email list to receive the flyers where we do advertise some of the items we have special for that week. Please call the store leave your email address.

Tim Stout:

Can I sign up online for that?

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Actually, you can if you go to if you go to the website Benedictus ky COMM And within five seconds a pop up pop up, put your email address in that'll come to us and we'll put you on the email list.

Tim Stout:

Yep, support the Catholic bookstore. I'm as simple as that books and gifts book I guess.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

You think it's a bookstore But more than that, it's okay.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

And it's interesting books was only about 20% of our business. Yes. So it's it's everybody always says Benedict his books but it's Benedict his books and guests. We got jewelry, we got home decor, we got artwork, we got all the saccharine in and out

Tim Stout:

right Dallas you got we got ABS I was filthy dirty. Remember weeks

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

ago I went to visited it was very beautiful is what goes

Unknown:

on shirts.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

We do have some we do have some in stock but if you have to order them we'll get them to but you know my wife and I travel across the United States and we'll go to cathedrals and shrine to mall is going to their bookstores and their gift shops and I will tell you all the places we've been Benedictus shows better than any of them.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

Totally. I totally agree.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

And you know, Judy Paternoster is listening. She's a volunteer who helped Patrick decorate the store and it's always well done. Well done.

Tim Stout:

We have had all of our masters out outdoors we've been through all those seasons. Dallas just told me last week of my album was horrible. I think he said stuck. They did.

Dallas Kelley:

It looks terrible. Needs cleaned.

Tim Stout:

I got news for you. So does your

Dallas Kelley:

yeah does need clean.

Tim Stout:

Yeah. So we're gonna patron as Benedictus. Thank you, Patrick is where I've got we got all of our apps to start with right. I took care of us at ordination and we have burned a lot of candles. Because we keep trying to and they keep bloat the winkies blowing them out. So we know we

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

have candles still burn at church, votive candle. We are very faithful. Support Benedictus.

Dallas Kelley:

We host all our hosts the only

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

problem is that Benedict munition and Stan you know our sacristan is very demanding when you sell a seven day candles Be prepared to serve exactly seven days if six day three hours a minute, it doesn't

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

close Matter of fact I've Patrick and I have had that. Okay, you

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

do understand. So we are very diligent on that matter,

Tim Stout:

WW. Benedictus ky calm. Please support the local Catholic bookstore and gifts. Betting goodness. Absolutely. Hey, man, thanks for coming.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

Is it over?

Tim Stout:

You've been going an hour going,

Dallas Kelley:

we're gonna get sane of the day.

Tim Stout:

We're gonna listen. We'll take a little break. We're To save the day and then they will come back and wrap things up. How about that? We'll go into extended play just for you, Gary.

Unknown:

This is Franciscan media saint of the day for April 23. Today we celebrate St. George, for all the fame and affection accorded him as the Dearly beloved patron saint of England. St. George remains pretty much a mystery to us. The story of his slaying the dragon rescuing the king's daughter and converting Libya appears to flow from an old Italian fable, but there's every reason to believe that he was a real martyr who suffered Atlanta, in what is now part of modern day Israel, probably before the time of Constantine. It's likely George was a soldier in the Roman army, who met a violent death after refusing to renounce his Christian faith. Some accounts have his martyrdom in the year 307. It may be momentarily disappointing to learn that today st didn't as best as we can tell, attack a menacing dragon on behalf of a damsel in distress, and then convert the entire country. But it's far more important to learn that he was willing to pay the supreme price through martyrdom to follow Christ. Whether it's the legendary saint or the real one. St. George has captured hearts and minds far beyond England. He's also the patron saint of Portugal, Germany, Aragon, Genoa, and Venice. There's more about the saints along with inspiration and Catholic resources at our website, Saint of the day.org from Franciscan media. This has been st of the day.

Tim Stout:

St. George Slayer of dragons Shamoon that's pretty cool, man. Yes. I mean, what other churches something like that.

Dallas Kelley:

Dragon Slayer dragon

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

slayer? It's,

Tim Stout:

it's good to be. It's good to be Catholic, right?

Dallas Kelley:

Oh, sure is.

Tim Stout:

Hey, we got one other thing. Well, we'll come back to you just second Gary, Giga punch up a camera. With video. This is the phishing report. Let's see how this let's see how this goes. Can we hear that? You hear that? You're not hear that. This is the fishing report. We're gonna we're gonna get it down to Dallas is just talking right now.

Musician:

I'm on the road trip.

Unknown:

This Morning.

Dallas Kelley:

Good Morning chores feed the dog. Got that gas very well we're here at the lake or right outside the lake. I must stop at this local small grocery store to get me some minnows get them get a thing of metal Velma mostly crappy fish today, but it's beautiful morning. Sunrise coming up at that sunrise. It's beautiful. Going to have a great day at the lake. Do some crop efficient. And I'll check in once I'm in the lake. Well, we made it to the lake to bounce 730 I'll get started here in a second. Hope you have a good day and I'll report back. talk to y'all in a bit.

Tim Stout:

Dallas we need to work on your video. We need to work on your video skills.

Dallas Kelley:

My fishing skills to think this one might be a keeper. I'll check back in in a few minutes. Again, caught a decent bass,

Musician:

good bass.

Dallas Kelley:

We try to get farther away because you don't want to go with content

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

that's too small to keep us in.

Dallas Kelley:

That one is 16 now 16 but conedison Bass my letter go

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

You have to let it go that decent too small. That's 14 inches

Dallas Kelley:

14 1214 and imagine where we're coasting in aveline and to put the boat on the trailer. Are you by yourself? About 15 it's hard to not just an okay day. Nice day to be out on the lake though. We'll talk when we get to the top of the ramp that was that was it That was this morning. That was for

Tim Stout:

Jason Berry. That was the

Dallas Kelley:

that was a real catch many that but last week we called about one to one with Tam would call. I don't know how many we got 15 or 20, something like that one. And then a few days before that I called 75. So

Unknown:

yeah,

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

you give me five. I don't know where to put it.

Dallas Kelley:

You don't know what you did with it.

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

I'm still looking for it.

Dallas Kelley:

You're probably in your trunk or the back of your truck. You'll be fine. Just follow the smell.

Tim Stout:

Hey, Gary, thanks for coming on. We're gonna have you back. And maybe we can work out the same with the Goddess. She talked about it. Like that's a I think it's a great idea. You know, they bring in good speakers. Yes, they do. I know that they we might build one of those people on the show. When we take the show on road, do a pre recording or something like that. I think it's a great idea. But we'll have you back to.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

That's a lot of fun.

Tim Stout:

Yeah. We want to hear how your new pastor is doing. Yes. Yeah. So let's see if he touched your Spanish speaking requirements down a little bit. Hey, if you're watching this, we asked you to go to ssF j.org to support our ministry. We want you to support Benedictus Benedict sky.com. But go to ssF j.org to support our ministry. This is only possible because of donations on all of our ministries. So if you're not following us on Facebook, do so. All those people that Gary told us about watching tonight, hit the like button. Like the video like St. Francis and john. We are Ministry of St. Francis and john. So tell your friends if you'd like what you hear. Hey, if you want to re listen to it, let's do it on your favorite podcast app. What's your favorite podcast app? Cool me? Yeah. Do you listen to podcast?

Unknown:

I do.

Tim Stout:

Do you use iTunes?

Fr. Linh Nguyen:

No. Always let people send it to me

Tim Stout:

Spotify, Spotify, iTunes, Amazon music. Were on all of them. So you're you're going to be immortalized? Remember, we've only had one show that we had to take off the air and that was because of an FBI agent. We had to take that off. So hey, would you do us a favor? Yes, sir. Would you give us a blessing to set us on our way

Unknown:

up beyond

Deacon Gary Rudemiller:

the name of the Father in the son of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. Heavenly Father, all that is good comes from you. inspire us with the Holy Spirit. So that we can be good witnesses, courageous witnesses, faithful witnesses to a world in such desperate need of good Christian values. Help us to be like St. George, the dragon slayer as we face the dragons of our world today. Give us your inspiration. And help us to live the life that you've called us to live. Help us to accept the vocation to which you called us. And in your name. I bless the Father, Son, the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen.

Tim Stout:

Great show guys. until two weeks from now, I'm Deacon Tim.

Dallas Kelley:

I'm taking Dallas I'm falling. When

Unknown:

are you? Um, Deacon Gary.

Tim Stout:

taken care of Rudy Miller. Thanks again.

Unknown:

Thank you.

Musician:

Did you ever stop and think why I spent too much time skating. I don't know a single thing that I haven't noticed. When I see you my heart starts racing, but I don't know if the length is Jason