#32 - Holy Week is Coming and Current Events

Deacon Tim and Father Linh sat down to talk about the end of Lent and the beginning of Holy Week, the Year of St. Joseph, Anti-Asian Bias in the US, and so much more.  It was a good discussion and even without Deacon Dallas, we think you will enjoy the discussion. 

 USCCB – Year of St. Joseph

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 Vatican – Patris Corde or With a Father’s Heart

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Transcript

Unknown: 0:10

Did you ever stop and think? Why spend too much time getting ready? I don't know a single thing that I haven't noticed. Then when I see you my heart starts racing, but I don't know if the length is Jason it's the same for my headset shaken. This time, this

Tim Stout: 0:50

Hey, today's March 12 2020. It's not March 12. What is it? March 26. March 26. I gotta make my notes better. It's the fifth week of Lent, not the third week of Lent. And you are tuned into deacons, discussions and drinks.

Unknown: 1:09

I don't know what I could say. To to hang around. So much. When I see my heart starts racing, if the length is brown, it's the same for my hands start shaking.

Tim Stout: 1:47

Hey, good evening, everybody. Welcome back to the cardones Studio last Friday and lit hard to believe is in it. It's crazy. went by fast.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:58

But very fast.

Tim Stout: 1:59

Of course my what are some people would argue when I say it's the last Friday and let me tell what about Good Friday. That's the tritium not lit. By the way, I'm Deacon Tim Stout.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 2:12

I'm fatherly. Dallas.

Tim Stout: 2:17

He's a missing interaction. Yeah, he's

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 2:19

you must have given him a lot of tough topic that he freaked out. He

Tim Stout: 2:23

I think that's what you know. That's ironic. You say that I thought that. I wasn't sure. Maybe he saw the topics and he didn't want to. He didn't want to talk about it. Which is fine, because we can talk about him without him. So why he didn't bring the beard. And he didn't and he didn't bring any beer. That's not good. So we got no beer. Just the two of us last week. Last Friday and lit and you know Fridays and let me

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 2:54

no meat

Tim Stout: 2:55

no meat and fish fries right last fish fry just is concluded. kind of slow last couple of weeks but it was good to have fish fries and good have a lot of people out here card. Oh, you know it's I think we were as a speaking now as a nightclub as we were pleasantly surprised that how well things went here.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 3:17

I think so. Today was a crazy day. It was a lot of going on out here calm. Beside fish fry. We have shown children at school and I know they did do the Passion Play here. They did a passion they will they're practicing. Next week. That's next week, Friday.

Tim Stout: 3:35

Cut some trees now.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 3:36

Oh, a lot of tree come down stumps grinding up. possibilities. Transaction take play with a senior center in us and no other conversation is taking place. So it's a lot of excitement. So

Tim Stout: 3:53

if you want to run a stump grinder come out this weekend. Is that what you're saying?

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 3:58

Oh, yeah, hey, start today already, it is grinding. And then we tried to fix up some of the beliefs. So the fence the rock fence needs to be fixed up a little bit. There's a lot going on.

Tim Stout: 4:15

And next week when the fire department helping

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 4:18

tear down one of the buildings right here down, they use that as their training facility. And so by doing that, they help tear it out. So when that didn't come down, and we'd be paying for the new module to come in, and we have to fix some of the room up here and building three to accommodate a sixth grade classroom while they have classes. So all these require a lot of coordination time precisely. What Ian what out right after the spring break for the kids with is the Easter week. Then the modular will arrive. Okay, right. No, no that will be Building would tear down with a fire department. And then the building the the new module will arrive right after school ended with is May the 24th. And they start Reus assemble all of that in a few months that we have to make sure the perfect school year.

Tim Stout: 5:18

Exciting. hectic crazy. So who's who's earning their money right now is Terry Ward superstar?

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 5:28

No, but I do appreciate the team that we have you are part of that. And it just phenomenal there's a lot of decision to be made right. And a lot of tour men conversation like today with a few with with Bobby Renae and brand tried to with Rebecca and Nick tried to position you know, all the contact information of people from belong to our parents. And interesting look through the list. And they say well, I haven't seen this people ages, you're assuming that long ago?

Tim Stout: 6:04

Well, it's been a long, it's been a year.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 6:06

It's been a year, yeah, who's in who's out and you know, make sure all the information in place and then look through the list. And we have members that has been been migrated move somewhere else and is still on the pair's list, so I have to get all that out away. And then we have to coordinate, we have a lot of Hispanic slots number. So we have to contain that. to delegate a, somebody can speak Spanish to talk to them about the project. I've worked with Steve right now actually the video that we made, and we have to convert that into Spanish, so people can watch it and understand. So there's a lot of, you know, coordination of all of that. So legit. Like I say, I appreciate the team that we have the passion, the enthusiasm, you know, all of that is a lot of work going into it. And no, I

Tim Stout: 6:58

mean it, but it's challenging. It's exciting. I mean, keeping track of the parish rolls, in normal situations. In the middle of a global pandemic, it's hard anyway. Because there's a lot of people move around and, you know, move from one parish to another for whatever for a variety of reasons, you know, moving jobs, etc, schools. But in the middle of a plant pandemic, it's even more difficult.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 7:22

But the hope for me is that we have a brand new team of a parishioner, about 20 of them, they will take the leadership of calling every parishioner and ask them are You doing okay? And begin to do some level of personal contact with them? And like I say, we we don't know what will be the answer that we reply back to us. But this is perhaps is the point of connection that we only way that we achieved that. So eat parishioner, the volunteers that we have, we contact up to almost 30 plus people family.

Tim Stout: 7:59

To me, that's that's incredible.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 8:01

A lot of commitment. So it is very exciting time it's a time bound consumer, I just came back from Texas, you know. And you know, when you down there and you really on zoom call up here talking and dealing with issues dilemma matter. And you know, and then same time, I still got some good time spent with mom and dad, they crazy down there as well.

Tim Stout: 8:26

I mean, what there was only you know, five or six church meetings a week now. You got two free days. I mean, what what are you complaining about?

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 8:33

No, it is still it's it's amazing how, despite over the COVID itself, but we still managed to stay very active. Right? Like, like this wonderful show that we are doing right now. It's extremely engaging. And and you know, it takes a lot of time consuming it beyond any way to just sit down and do it. You have to plan you have technology set in you make sure live stream with prepare, you have to make sure the topic is current. Make sure that that you know, thing. truly engaged while people Yeah, that's it. You just don't walk in, sit down and make it happen. That's for sure. Yeah, and even even Sundays like that, right?

Tim Stout: 9:13

I mean, you know, Steven, I laugh about it, because it seems like every day is a challenge. I got here a couple hours early today, and the internet didn't work. It took me two hours to get the internet up and talking on the phone with Steve Burton and just getting things done but it is challenging, but it's also for me, you know, it's it's God I think God calls us in different ways in a pandemic, right? We have to we have to hear how he's calling us. And you know, for me it's been kind of a transition from just being admin finance. To more what I kind of see for me this this and and the shift this Sunday masses, live streaming things, is more about evangelization and pulling people, not new necessarily new people, but current and active Assisting parishioners, we got to call them home. Because, you know, there's, there's gonna be there's lots of studies out there. There's, there's a lot of people that won't come back.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 10:11

Exactly.

Tim Stout: 10:12

And you know, to me, we've got to love this approach with just calling. You know, getting new people involved calling and saying, Hey, what's going on? How are you doing?

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 10:23

Exactly? It's not about the building, right? We building relationship. But I want to throw a pitch to you guys. Last Sunday. You know, I was on the other side receiving the live stream. Here we go, Steve,

Tim Stout: 10:37

nobody's gonna say,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 10:38

Oh, yeah, I think I observed other places. We are the best. I dare say that with a confident

Tim Stout: 10:47

we had an internet issue last week.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 10:49

But he's still it went perfectly. It's a little stagnated. But it's still the photogenic of individual. The work that goes into it. I know. You know, every time a static I can see Deacon Tim Stout get panic. People need a scene. I've been in theater before, right? You know, where every time on the screen you see a black out or you see a glitch? You know, there's some foul language and you're behind the seat. I don't know, Steve, I don't know about foul language. But there's so much work on to it, you know, people call, you know, email me simply as your way, you know, when we get back on the road, you know, doing short, I said, The truth is, when all this subsided, we love to, you know, the amount of work that go, every mass is form full, right? More than walk in vast and have a mass with this require a lot of coin every Sunday day in day out. When we do this for a year.

Tim Stout: 11:47

I'm looking forward to being on this walk in best best thing. You know, it's funny, you know, we're gonna talk about holy week here in a second. But you know, for me, I'm really looking forward to Easter Vigil. Just to be back in the church. I mean, I know you're in the church to the course of the week for weekday mass and you do kid's Master, you alternate between here and there. But you know, that one, the one Sunday, I guess there was two Sundays, where we canceled because of the weather here. And we went there just live streamed only. It it it is different.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 12:23

It's very different. Right. But different because now, you know, I have to bring Steve in to do live stream, you know, people from the other side from the screen, that not seeing our church, there is light their camera is like in the middle of the the sanctuary. Yeah, we're gonna work on that mentioned about the level of reverence is become less, right. So we have to maintain all of that information recategorize about these important about the ritual? Even you know, when we go back into the main of the chapel, the church that we celebrate, you know, during this time, there's something weird about it, right? We all sign very far. There's no server, there's no you know, everything's so minimal.

Tim Stout: 13:09

Even at school mass, you'd have no servers, no server. Yeah, I think to me, it's something you know, I've mentioned a few times on the show here. The, the non, the lack of being, I mean, I know that people are responding, but the lack of being able to hear that is that effectively, you know, I told Steve, when we started as we need to get one of those big parabolic microphones that we can sit out there and and blow it back to us the sound back to so we can hear the people. Because I mean, there's nothing like being in a crowded church and hearing people pray here and people seeing it. I mean, it's part of the worship here, you know, it gets you closer to God,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 13:45

that is that is unique about when the church or communal prayer. That's it, there is the reciprocal response. You know, I hear myself You say The Lord be with you. And then I hear myself say, And with your spirit, but to say that it can be on the behalf of the people that unable to be here with us. I have to respond to that. It's like, I did the whole mass basically, by myself. It just so well, that's, you know,

Tim Stout: 14:14

finally Carlos didn't do that. Yeah,

Unknown: 14:15

right. He couldn't hear anything.

Tim Stout: 14:17

And you know, it's kind of like when we were we're talking about the passion and the passion coming up for Holy Week for Palm Sunday and then again on Good Friday, you know, the voice the voice would typically be away sorry, the crowd would be the crowd. And the crowd is good to be people in the music room. Yeah. So people can hear so yeah, that means we take them with take a lot of things for granted. I think you know, that the the tritium for me last year was when it all kind of the wheels all fell off. Right. And we were learning what to do and we had I was talking to Steve because you know, one of the challenges for to livestream the Easter Vigil is gonna be dark outside. So Steve does didn't have enough lights to light up outside inside at the same time so we got we had to figure that out but if you remember last year we were out there with an iphone upon rene was there up on the porch come on out and we got this little fire here and we broadcast and we we told everybody okay we're gonna stop the broadcast we're gonna switch to a different camera so we ended the broadcast and we started up again and you know we're we're much better than that and hopefully we're able to have a better sense of reverence and have let me because easter vigils i mean it's important it's important important part of of church life let's go ahead and talk about that we'll work a little bit backwards oh easter vigil how many how many candidates and do we have any catechumens

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 15:47

no we have no catechumen we might have categories with hispanic community it color i've been talking to the set about the coordination of that but from the english we have two candidates really strong candidates one gentleman both a military one i did a wedding for him and some hughes conversion he went to him back he fly a party i believe great great to two wonderful gentlemen we have and then we have few young conservation that the family that was with us is leaving and they in compromising class so they want go ahead and receive confirmation before they leave our parish from the hispanic we have about six or seven potential in working within an hour we meet with them sunday to make sure everything is in place or not or to wait or not so so we will have a

Tim Stout: 16:48

pretty full church that

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 16:49

pretty cool just a family alone and the cantor and the readers we should have a full capacity hopefully you know within the maintain about 35 ish people that we should allow to be in it

Tim Stout: 17:03

you know so let's let's start with just talking a little bit about holloway sundays kicks off holy week with with palm sunday steve says it's gonna rain i don't think he's thinking

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 17:18

it'd be rain right because that's part of the blessing we have the blessed palm right we do have the blessed so we have to bring palm oil so it's it's wonderful right it's why we begin with palm sunday is the triumphant jesus enter into jerusalem to face his death that is the beginning of his offering sacrifice of himself totally to the eternal father and so how important is to enter with great calamity of that celebration and then we we we are sure into the holy week itself right with great diligence calamity anticipation but the big big one of course a true idiom that we celebrate with the holy thursday actually tuesday though we have a crazy mess right with the whole mess with oil with the bishop

Tim Stout: 18:09

are you going i'm going did you rsvp

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 18:11

yes i did i don't want to get in trouble

Tim Stout: 18:13

wow wow rsvp no i just i wanted to you know i wanted to make sure somebody else had a shot you know because they're they're not everybody that wanted to go probably is not going to get to go at least on the deacon side i don't know the precise i guess

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 18:29

what the british say is yeah it's a those who can go should go and those who at age have not been vaccinated encouraged not to go okay

Tim Stout: 18:40

right right so i gave my my seat up this to somebody else

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 18:44

so kobe interesting like i say it's it's a step up i get improvement since COVID right because the last holy oil man we know we can go

Tim Stout: 18:58

down celebrated but

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 18:59

yeah himself by himself that's it and and so this one actually opened up a little bit so you know we do actually see a glimpse of good light and that mass is so important right absolutely the great oil that we receive that we send the oil we all sell we process bring to our community all holy thursday and of course this holy thursday going to be unique because no footwashing

Tim Stout: 19:26

right that's the restriction that's the restriction

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 19:28

oh feet wide open for anybody and so that can be another strange reality would have on face but at least we have some other part that can be significant in that but we hopefully we have a beautiful eucharist procession at the end of mass right when we move a jesus a to a reserve tabernacle that we have some time to our dual assume that the he already die and went into the tomb to be pebble good friday

Tim Stout: 19:59

and that's going to I've been here accardo and the procession is going to be from the front of Cardo to the what used to be called the the the parish hall now

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 20:09

Harris Hall is a is that what do you call that place

Tim Stout: 20:14

no longer is something to do with the school right? Not the new school but the sister school.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 20:20

Yeah, I used to call it the dream Playhouse. Last I remember some Well,

Tim Stout: 20:27

we're getting in trouble for not knowing the name of it.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 20:29

So, the idea is that the we have to be careful in this procession to right so the Blessed Sacrament represent to the entrance and there will be an altar there a temporary altar when we do a lot of Reverend incense singing right there. And after that the tabernacle out the buzzer, Sakhalin real transfer, inside the above the parish hall, there will be a temporary tabernacle sitting there. And people can sign up to our door Jesus until 11 o'clock before we close out. Okay. And then we move to Good Friday, right? And Good Friday, we'll be out here to the only thing I want to push. We do this year, like in the past, unlike last year, we can so that there will be a community Good Friday service can be at the David's campground. So whether we are service right there for the entire Scott County to bring coming over, bring the chair, bring a lawn chair, bring an umbrella if it's rain, but what day is it? It's on Good Friday, at noon can be a short prayer for, you know, Scott County, Georgetown community, all churches come together for that. But for our self, we will have a live station of the cross right at 530 begins at the UCO in right can be live presentation. So if folks have nobody experience is very wonderful is host by the Hispanic community. In that tradition, lifestation across is a big thing.

Tim Stout: 22:08

So two years ago, was the first time I wait to say they've done it for a few years. But they process from the courthouse up to the church, the church. So this Friday, we will process from Yuko who know over to the front of the Journal of carto.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 22:27

So there will be combination of English and Spanish language that will be each station there will be kind of a commentary of that station in English. And the Hispanic, Spanish language will carry the rest of the story. We see Jesus carried the cross there will be screaming and yelling, you're all the live presentation of this beautiful station, of course had taken place. One of the things that struck me

Tim Stout: 22:54

the last time this happened with on Main Street was people in their cars stopping yes to see what was going on. I mean, we won't get that here. But you know, it's still a very, very powerful, emotional, not ritual but remembrance of what's going on. But

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 23:15

I think it's beautiful. I think for this time we kind of not public side for the public, but more we want our parishioner it's not a Hispanic thing, right, is for Francis and john for most to come out to us this wonderful opportunity to journey literally journey with Christ to the tomb. You know, that's how he have done for us. And so we are invited of Good Friday to participate in that until we make our way to the front and then we have a ritual celebration of Good Friday right after that.

Tim Stout: 23:46

So 530 starts the procession

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 23:49

yes all right.

Tim Stout: 23:51

530 Thursday that's mass without the footwashing are hoping it doesn't rain have a will have incense. We have an added sense of an insight that you go somebody get father a rock on the line who have incense, which will be good. We'll have incense Thursday, no instance Friday. Right, right. Passion veneration across talk about how that that's gonna be a little bit different, right?

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 24:22

Yeah, because the the the like I said is the social distraction restriction. So we are not going to kiss the cross ourselves each person, but we have a gesture of reverence, either genuflect or bow to the cross as we approach record each personally. And so that can be a way to to pay a reverence to the cross that Jesus himself was hung on. That would be that part.

Tim Stout: 24:49

Are we are we gonna process upward with the cross? Yes, we will. I heard that the big cross was missing in action. We might actually have to use a little one

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 24:59

know what the big cause is? been found trust me and deacon tim cook john madigan john doe i think it'd be nice i think with this kind of celebration being outdoor it bring about the magnitude i remember when i i was in a villa the coochie on on the street of of jerusalem and walk in the station or cross of jesus remember he was on that same track right and the market was there the people was there and you walk in the midst of all of that and you saw a little piece of rock and said the fifth station the third station and you stayed and you pray together in small groups you talk about the children but out here i think the same way you're in the midst of the outdoor that's what station or cross meant to be

Tim Stout: 25:55

no and it should the weather looks like it's gonna be good friday if you know if you can be good on the forecast as far out i'm hoping that it is because that's that's the longest kind of outdoor different for mass obviously so there's some procession you know there's the cross it'll be there it'll be a lot different than than then a mass epically so i'm hoping that that will be good weather and i'm hoping sunday will be good weather this sunday might be a little bit of rain might be a little bit rain but we're used to that easter sunday i'm hoping that there will be sun

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 26:28

yes it will be something yes and good for everything and it's sunday definitely we we like to say this year we're gonna push forward with of course consciously of social distant and all that we could do a cotton the youth the confirmation class is we'll have a you know a cotton oh we find right i mean outdoor right after 10 o'clock math and after 12 o'clock spanish math there will be a con for the children so there's to delve into event after eat celebration so compared to last year there was nothing right nothing

Tim Stout: 27:05

zero zilch

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 27:06

and this year somehow in many way we can still very much managing totally respect the cdc and requirement but we still have to manage way to celebrate i hope people is not forgotten about last year there was nothing

Tim Stout: 27:23

so this even with distancing even being outside

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 27:27

is something but something something big you know something great and we intend to do that

Tim Stout: 27:34

i mean i'm excited about it and i hope you know all of our parishioners are excited about it and if you've been away if you've been only watching on live stream you know we're probably not gonna live stream steve and i were talking about this before we probably won't be live streaming thursday and friday even though he says we might be able to do it thursday friday we will be saturday and we will be sunday you can obviously join that way but if you can't come out the card oh

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 28:03

i think so i will push this coming sunday i will talk on via facebook and everybody else really want everyone you know even if you have already been vaccinated come out if you you feel you know a little bit unsafe trust in god and come out because i guarantee you how safe we've been doing this and extremely safe in every matter we can and none of us really take this thing for lie or under estimating either political matter or not is about the requirements etc and we comply to that and we have done extremely well and so i really encourage everybody to have a leap of faith and courage to come out celebrate easter together as a community you know yeah

Tim Stout: 28:51

you know i think a lot of people are can be set in their ways and and i'm okay with that you know how you know you know i've talked about it you know there's a lot of people out there that have a difference of opinion it's not unlike the political world right now where everybody has a position you know the church sits in the middle of racks and even in a case where we talk about you know social distancing whatever position you whatever your thoughts are on it social distancing word a mask all those things the church sits in the middle and what we want people to be safe right but we also we're not we're not like a non denominational christian church or baptist church or were the catholic church and it it does does mean something different in person what we're witnessing and what we're a part of in easter is the best time to come back

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 29:47

but today i have a piece of news two places one in new york i believe the restriction still maintain less and the the the gjorde have to pass the law to say no they are essential Please like everybody who maintain 40 plus percent, the church, you're allowed to have 40 plus percent. Okay. And in Philippine, and the President was tried to restrict more, and we will push back, I saw that I

Tim Stout: 30:12

saw the pushback.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 30:13

It was there now.

Tim Stout: 30:16

Yeah. But there are some places in this country that the churches are still not having church.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 30:21

Well, yes, sir.

Tim Stout: 30:22

You know, so,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 30:24

you know, right now,

Unknown: 30:25

you know, how

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 30:25

fortunate we are to have a place like this, because there was a minister, actually, mala point. He asked about it, did anybody have an outdoor service, that he can participate as a sunrise service, and they have not able to have such celebration. And that, in many of our brothers and sister Protestant church is very struggle, because you can live stream so long, but you have to be encountered in person, you know? And so for us, yes. is not the best right? Now. It's not okay. But it is what it is, right? At least we have a chance to to interact, face to face, or even the social distance, you can see someone sitting next to you, you know, even in a lawn chair, right. It's still a lot of opportunity. So that's fun. What

Tim Stout: 31:22

do you say that that encounter one of the things, you know, you you give out communion on the, on the handicapped, right side and in the choir and stuff, and, and I usually give out communion right in the center. And whenever I finish, I always walk to the back, even if I don't think I'm needed back there, I walk to the back, just so I can see people. Because it's been so long since I've seen so many, you know, people who I consider friends. I just want to see him.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 31:49

Exactly.

Tim Stout: 31:50

I just want to have that two second encounter, I want to have that encounter,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 31:54

you know that, you know, I met a few people there, I check in with them. And they say, Father, you know that I was at the courtroom at every mass for over a year. And I have never seen them.

Tim Stout: 32:11

Agree. Yeah.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 32:11

And it's just devastating. It's, it's, you know, for me, I think the point for us as ministers is very important for us to have those things in conversation. We great perspective. So when we re engage again, would we know we will? How do we preach about those important perspective? You know, bring it to light?

Tim Stout: 32:34

I think it's important. It's, you know, before we went on the air, I was telling, I got to see my mom today. Oh, good. Good story. You know, first time I've seen her, she was at the hospital. So I got to see her for a brief period of time. But really, today was the first time I got to go see her sit down with her is only for 30 minutes. And, you know, here's a woman who's been in her assisted living facility for a year. And the only people she's really interacting with it in person are her caregivers. And which is to just to nurse in a in a nurse assistant CNA. And the one thing she wants to tell me when I get there is how blessed she is. You know how God has blessed her and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking all the way over there. I'm thinking about, you know, how crazy this is how upset I am that I can't just go get her bring her home, or I can't go visit her anytime I want to. And then I think about, you know, I'm thinking I'm thinking about Holy Week, and I'm thinking about how crazy that's gonna be and how everything's been taken away. changed, modified. And it's, and it's a pain and how frustrated I am. And I walk into my mom who's really had everything taken away. And she talks about how bless us

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 33:56

slap in the face. Yes.

Tim Stout: 33:59

Well, it, it's it's humbling.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 34:01

It's very humbling. Yeah.

Tim Stout: 34:03

But, you know, I think it's a lesson for all of us that no matter how bad or how much we disagree, we still have our faith. And that God God gives us doesn't give us more than we can handle. You know, we've heard that said a lot. But he's also accompany us on this journey. And as long as we keep our faith, and we don't lose our faith, we don't walk away. We don't turn our backs on God. You can turn your back on, on me or you because you don't like something we said or we did or whatever. But don't turn your back on God.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 34:41

Exactly. You know, in the midst of all this great pandemic of God have to bring up the year St. Joseph, right. The head we celebrate that fellow right now. And it's amazing. And Steve gets out of it. You know how Pope Francis, use him in the midst of all this crap. and one thing about joseph is one faithful you know he drank a lot but extremely faithful guys we don't know much about him except his faithfulness you know outside of that is there anything more than that but faithfulness to god and and then for me as i think with him started praying with him and and think about this holy week and it's about the essential isn't it about that faithfulness we are asking to look at the god that will do anything for you not the way you want it right but the very eternal destination of your life promise you know wipe away every burden of your sinfulness as long as you seek in that mercy of that god i mean you know

Tim Stout: 35:55

what a story of faith you know i mean he we talk a lot about mary's yes but you know joseph had a yes in there too yeah and you know something was happening to mary right she she knew it he had a dream that he had to believe it right and it's me i mean it's just you know i like to when i reflect on these things i like to try to put myself in the position and understand you know where people where he was what it was like in his culture and it was a big step for him i mean and i think i don't think we can fully appreciate that there's a couple books out there that i think cannot put one in the show notes that kind of do justice to the what was going on in joseph's life and for him to say yeah okay i'm gonna i'm with you mary i'm going to be with you you know obviously there's there's god's involved in that and so you know it's not just joseph by himself it's this is the same thing with us right it's this this relationship he joseph's in relationship with god he by saying yes

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 37:04

that's what you have to be you have to be you know like i say for me there's so many theologian people write about it because god is not something that you have and you grab onto it and you call it a day right it's quite a deeper relationship for joseph is as a central you know like yesterday we celebrate with you yesterday annunciation right yeah you know for me for her to respond to that and she was in deep enticement you know with god for her to respond to that i listened to npr not npr relevant radio and this press was talking about the word maybe don't be a country word but the actual inland is not maybe the may it will be done to me in other words he or she is completely total feared accepting what will be the future okay and so for us we often want it now and one future who knows but i want it now right but for joseph and her classic example and they they do they accepted what will be the future for them and that become the story of bromance with god

Tim Stout: 38:19

okay relationship

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 38:21

relationship is eternal and so and one thing with this Coronavirus did to us what it takes away that relationship just like you you know saw your mom for the first time like in a year and you raise it yeah and you expect everything and for her to be to feel the blessedness of god and that mean the woman in some capacity she in great connection with god than we do right

Tim Stout: 38:53

absolutely i mean to me it's it's a it's a testament to her faith you know it's not my mom's not somebody that that i think growing up we went to church every sunday we were very active in church but i never heard her really talk about being blessed growing up or talk about her relationship with god she she demonstrated it through her her actions you know and to hear her in her you know she's in her 70s still relatively young but her her body's not but to hear her talk about her relationship at this time in her life when you know her body is breaking down and i see so many things that i feel like are going against her but she talks about how blessed she is you have to have a deep faith and we today in today's world we encounter well i've encountered i'm sure you encounter people that that have no faith it doesn't mean that they're bad people but when when life deals you death of a loved one young close or even even a pandemic in a way that that throws you in isolation i think that's one of the reasons we see such crazy stuff going on in our society so much depression right so much suicide because people don't have a place to turn they just they feel alone

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 40:18

well a few months ago there was a study came out over the way the pew study i believe that those who do in this time a pandemic are regularly attending to church or see live much more different perspective very positive and hopeful and those who not is that interesting no it's not it's reality right and it is backing up to everything that we are doing i we've been blessed like mom said of what god has given us that deep intimate relationship despite we recognize a nod but as long as you hang on to it you know then it will manifest but

Tim Stout: 41:01

it's kinda like for me it's my mom's teaching me a lesson another lesson in law in life but it's how you look at things right i mean if you look at something and you look for the negative which is what i when i'm thinking about what what she's experienced i focus on the negative because i'm a fixer right right i want to fix stuff and i can't fix it it's totally outside of my control it's not anything that i could ever possibly do and so not being able to fix it i get frustrated and it just you know it's it's hard in this culture today it's hard to accept those things right we want we want things our way right and we look when we're not able to control things we look at things and we look at how bad they are because they're out of our control and we can't fix them or we can't go to church you know saturday at five o'clock we can't do that anymore and we get frustrated because of that and if we look for the negative things if we look for those things we will find them they are all around us but if we look to the goodness of god we look to the love that he's just pouring out to us we find goodness but it so many people in today's world so many people in our culture don't want to look for those things and i think that i mean ironically i think that stems from politics to be honest with you i think that you know this saw something this week that talked about actually was a documentary i was watching a documentary on billy eilish do you know who she is she's a singer and you know her mom was talking about how teammate hurt her music is sometimes said to be kind of depressing and her mom was talking about that there's a lot of teenagers that are depressed and and she said you know this generation gets a bad rap because people say oh just they're soft they don't have anything to be depressed about but then when you think about that i'm not talking about relationship with god just talking about in culture in general you think about a pandemic you think about the political environment you think about what people think about the environment itself you know whether we're destroying it or not whether whether you believe or not that's what that that's what they're hearing right and you just roll up all the stuff in our lives and they're in isolation and they're not going to school and they're not seeing their friends and they're not having prompts or not playing sports it's pretty easy to be depressed

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 43:31

that's nothing but depression right and so hope

Tim Stout: 43:34

and if you don't have hope if you don't have faith what do you have

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 43:43

yourself and it's so true it is so true

Tim Stout: 43:51

but you were talking about st joseph i guess he proclaimed that at the end of last year right it his apostolic exhortation actually i do have that here it's called petrus core day i say that right with a father's heart it's it's available online at the vatican's website i'm sure you can google search that and find a pdf great source of information on on what pope francis is calling us to for this for this year another good source i heard held this magazine up earlier this is from the knights of columbus this is the columbia magazine everything you want to know about st joseph is in this magazine everything there's a lot of information in here and it gives couple prayers how many prayers do you think there are different prayers to st joseph

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 44:39

that's way too many with fascinate me what are the big ideas when texas was tried to find out how many pray there are and they haven't stopped so i'm about to contact the city of st joseph with ren the nursing home a dream for sale taylor manor and i'll call them and say could you identify all this prayer

Tim Stout: 45:00

This one's a pretty good one. This was a short one. I know. James Drummond, who I know listen to everyone's Well, he he's wanted us to change the prayer to St. Joseph, historically that we've prayed. Because I think at the end, it just talks about a happy death. Right?

Unknown: 45:14

Yeah.

Tim Stout: 45:15

We call it like, it's about that, James. It's about happy that this one doesn't say that. We are in we are we did start this parish, St. Joseph this past Sunday. So we're going to continue that. You know, we kind of get out of practice because of COVID and different things. So wonderful. We are republishing that so people can pray along with us. I think most of

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 45:37

people remembered as people comment how, how wonderful that we brought it back, and how much they missed it.

Tim Stout: 45:45

And it's true. It's, it's when you take something away is when you really find out how much you missed it or how much that means to you. It's just like when we have when we don't use the the vocation prayer, or the prayer to say, Michael at the beginning of mass, if somebody forgets to do it or started or whatever happens. It's like, man, I miss, I miss, I miss that. I miss that. So you just got back from Texas, say mom and dad. And in the past couple weeks, there were a couple shootings and one of those was considered anti Asian episode. I'd be interested to see what's your take on that?

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 46:29

Oh, don't get us started with that. In my family right now, there's compensation in regarding to this particular we call it propaganda campaign. From the leftists Are they really, Agent discrimination? Yeah, perhaps they'll have cases. But they get to the point it becomes so escalated. You know, for example, in a typical statistic, you look at it very clear from in California, for example, last year alone, I think was 131 cases. Okay, compared to the whole state of compared to others issues, those, you know, it very minimal, not 131

Tim Stout: 47:13

shootings

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 47:14

night, just some type of complain or say it had to do with some type of hate per se, but not in the crime of shooting per se. So now has become very interesting to that point. Like, my sister just texted me to say Guess what, you know, I have to friend African American really concerned for her to attack her. Are you okay? Europe, we are fine. You know, everything has become a political agenda. I think it's gone too far. To the point that, like everything else,

Tim Stout: 47:57

I mean, are the racist in this country?

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 47:59

Yes. But it's not to the point that, you know, to hinder a great nation, you know, a great nation that stand behind every possibility to defend the integrity human right, who who is the best country taught by human rights? America? Let's get the facts straight. Okay. Who is the best country dealing with poverty issues? America.

Tim Stout: 48:25

Okay, we don't. And we just internally we just say it's not good enough.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 48:29

Right, exactly. But it went to the point. People could lose the perspective over this. I call political shindig that, that go crazy and rampage.

Tim Stout: 48:44

That and that's not to say that you haven't experienced bias in your life because you have Right, right. You know, I've talked about that before it, it happens,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 48:52

but it's still the opportunity for us to climb. You know, I I encountered so many great people that support me who I am and what I do, do I receive from those who are anti Asian, so I am Yeah. But am I cash and everything I grew on and successful based on those comments if those people, Hell no, I run around with the good people that give me a better chair shot a better life. Right. And those, it's important. And so this thing right now, I think, for me the humor that we paint to the point that we make other nation look America at the dumpster, you know, undermining what this country is. And I think those kind of social media aspect of it, and I sincerely people really had to do some do deal, deal, diligence searching for the truth, because they will look for the hate crime of Asian you can't find it at all. You know, if I'm very small percentage is not really is a pandemic, you know, you know, since everything is a pandemic in this wars o'rowe Asian hate crime is pandemic now.

Tim Stout: 50:10

I mean, you know, in rabbits I think that the the media was trying to make. I mean, it was a serious event, obviously that happened in Georgia. But always think that the the media is trying to throw it back and make it political and say, Okay, we've got this anti Asian bias that's going on. Let's see if we can blame former President Trump because he called it the China virus. And he started, he started this anti Asian bias. So let's let's make this bigger than it is. Let's make it something different than it is because I think even I mean, I've done some reading on it. But I think one of the things that they said was the guy said, Nah, the the guy that committed the crime said this would have nothing to do with Asians.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 50:52

Exactly it Yeah, but understand. For us, for example, not not, do we really know that this is truth right here. So you talk about that kind of market of massage therapists. Okay. And who is the best of that? Of course, not pick on Korean, but Korean doing that. If you talk about nail polishing, you know, talk Korea, you talk Vietnamese, okay. You would pedicure Medicare, you know, Vietnamese, that end of that. Okay. You want to know about Really? hotel business? Is Indian. Right? Correct. And so just because these do go in this particular color, the FBI was very clear, right? They say what is not a hate crime, right? This guy that really have a sexual composer problem. he happened to be part of that he shot this group of people who happen to be predominant set of people who have will be Asian, and others and they hate Asian.

Tim Stout: 51:49

How it works, man, that is crazy.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 51:52

So it's, oh, that's a big conversation. My family this weekend was about how ridiculous it is. Okay. How we begin, there was an article, we turn into the puppet show, okay? We call it the, the, the Asian, sentimental, whatever they call it.

Tim Stout: 52:17

It's your mom or dad, your your brothers and sister. They they live in a predominantly Vietnamese community, correct. I mean, that they're not isolated.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 52:26

They're not isolated that by integrating in political, you know, society, they work very diligently in the health care they do in technology, they involve across all my niece and nephew. I don't think they ever experience discrimination on their part, the niece and nephew dies.

Tim Stout: 52:45

And your your brother was was a county commissioner

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 52:49

Joe he right now he worked for a nice title is the the deputy grand deputy, I guess, for the water state representative federal representative. And so, so this kind of thing, it's unfortunately, has been catch on with everything else with you know, and everything kind of feeling aspect. So why the drag Asian into this? Probably Asian is, is it it's it would kind of neat to be stirred up, let I guess we've been very quiet out there since the China virus, whatever the President Trump said, and so let's catch on to it.

Tim Stout: 53:32

But you don't feel you don't feel threatened? We felt threatened you, you do something about it exactly. Change where you live community or whatever. You know,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 53:43

you have enough education and value to do what it takes to defend yourself. Right. And so that is essential.

Tim Stout: 53:55

You know, I think we, you know, we do what we need to do to protect ourselves, our families, whatever I mean, there's,

Unknown: 54:04

you know, I,

Tim Stout: 54:06

I'm, I'm, I'm a Caucasian, I will never experience that type of racial injustice that does exist in this world. I'm not saying neither one of us saying it doesn't exist because it it does exist. But we don't we as a culture, don't do anything positive by calling something anti Asian bias when that's really not what's happening in that particular case.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 54:32

Yeah, a lot of pain a lot of things for me, there is a thing you know, like you got Caucasian, I'd be concerned too is that we called reverse incrimination. In other words, you have done anything wrong, just happened to be white. So therefore you are the fastest, you know, you your white supremacist. Okay, let's be fair on that. Okay. Tim is a good guy. He's not, you know, I'm saying and so don't feel that way.

Tim Stout: 54:59

You know, it's hard to It's hard to it's uncomfortable now to make those new statements, you know,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 55:04

it turned to mud into this whole level of exerting sensitivity to the point that we not need to deal with it. It's just ridiculous. And so I think failing is become a driven than logic.

Tim Stout: 55:22

And fact, we've lost track of facts. There's no doubt about

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 55:27

we no longer be realists. Okay. And so everything function based on this feeling. And so nothing you know, in my family we told you before, one of our nice God lover, and she's the only one and she'd become extremely on this level of sensitivity graduate from University of Texas in Austin. And that was a big conversation my family hope they don't hear this was waded out. And that was a major issue because she extremely sensitive the point. You're not my brother, his her dad. Okay.

Tim Stout: 56:06

He has, we're not gonna mention any name,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 56:09

nickname. You know, literally, literally, we translate to English black guy, unless he he skin was black. Or she fed a fan to that. And we call him lad says that he was born. Okay. And my sister in law, is she dim when you met him? He looked like Mexican. Literally. That's what he looked like. I was with him. When we approached a certain, you know, restaurant, the Hispanic people speak Spanish to him. But I'm the one who respond Spanish to them. Okay, so we call him the Mexican guy. And she took offense to that on his behalf my you, but he's fine. Okay. Stuff like that, you know, it represent a culture, we become so oversensitive, that we don't know why we are sensitive. For what reason? And so back to this issue about the the, the Asian dilemma, I think that piece needs to be clarified. As a general Asian, we'll find all their minor discrimination, but Yes, they are. But we don't use this as a pouting opportunity, right? We don't sit here and stomp our feet and say, How dare you? You hate us? You know, let's move forward.

Tim Stout: 57:30

That's what everybody's called to do. Right. Yeah.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 57:32

And it's just I mean, that's,

Tim Stout: 57:33

that's part of the the American history right, the American dream, work hard. Move forward.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 57:40

That's what we do. And

Tim Stout: 57:43

great American stunning. Your story to me is that, yeah, I mean, you think about where this country was during the Vietnam War, and where it is today. If there's a if there's that much Asian bias that media makes it out to be right now, you wouldn't be sitting right. Exactly. Your brother wouldn't have been a county commissioner. No, I mean, your dad Grace's very successful family.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 58:05

And we we we take what this country offer. And now we have to give it back to this country as we should. That has always been our fundamental base and what we own and we indebted this country, you know, and then we move on with that. Okay. And so those pieces could never be communicated How unfortunate there was a program this came out there was a movie forgot his name now is out there right now is I think it's on Hulu is a phenomenal movie. And I saw it and I i've been advertised completely forgot about it. But it's really good. It talks about the people Hollywood that was anti Vietnam War, and they came home and they throw this propaganda against American soldier remember, American soldier came back. The Vietnam War received a bad rap. bad rap but no nothing. And so because of all this propaganda, and now it's coming out. And it was a story was tell by a Vietnamese soldier and being friend with one of the American army captain, I believe, and he tells this story. It's a great movie.

Tim Stout: 59:22

You have to take that to mean I'll put it out so we get that ring.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 59:27

But you know, back to this anti Asian bias in us is is again it is become a major propaganda. You know, I'm speaking as an Asian myself, extremely against what what American is about is not the integrity what it is. Okay.

Tim Stout: 59:52

Well, I appreciate your comments on that. I know hopefully the listeners appreciate it too. I think sometimes we get, we get we get frustrated. But hear hearing from you. I mean, I've got you know, you and I have a good relationship I trust. I trust that you're telling me what you've experienced, you know, you're not making it up because of your political leanings. Whether you lean left or right, it doesn't matter. I mean, you're talking about with you and your family and your friends have experienced Yeah, truly,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:00:21

have you lived? If you live true to the integrity, what you meant to live, courtesy, respect. You know, one thing I teach my kids here at St. JOHN, two words are remember. Thank you. And I'm sorry. If you use that truth doesn't matter what race you are, what color you are. You can come up all right. I guarantee you that.

Tim Stout: 1:00:45

I agree. I agree. Hey, man, so many topics that we didn't get to. And I had a whole list of things because I was worried it was just gonna be me and you. We're not going to get to all the stuff and probably good that we don't do some of these things are kind of controversial.

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:00:59

Still, live is controversial. That's what Jesus said when we started the Holy Week, right? Yeah, like controversial. Yeah,

Tim Stout: 1:01:05

we'll say some of these topics for next time. Let's let's go to Steve, you ready for the day over there because I'm ready. Saying of the day is St. Catherine of Genoa. I hope I got the audio connected with the right slides. Here we go.

Unknown: 1:01:21

This is Franciscan media saint of the day for March 26. Today we celebrate St Catherine of Genoa. A deep conversion experience while in the confessional marked a new beginning for Catherine of Genoa, something she badly needed. Born into a noble family Catherine was married at age 16 to Julian who turned out to be self centered and unfaithful. For a time Catherine tried to numb her disappointment with selfish pleasure. But one day in confession, Catherine received a new sense of her sinfulness and how much God loved her. For the next 25 years she immersed herself in good works, as well as prayer and fasting by reforming her own life. Catherine gave good example to Julian, who experienced his own conversion. Just as the pair were beginning to move in a new direction. They learned that Julian spending sprees had ruined them financially. Husband and wife moved into a large hospital in Genoa, where they dedicated themselves to charity. Catherine focused on working as a nurse and administrator heroically ministering to many during the deadly epidemic of 1493 that killed 80% of the city's population. Catherine died in 1510 and was canonized in 1737. There's more about the saints along with inspiration and Catholic resources at our website, Saint of the day.org. From Franciscan media, this has been st of the day.

Tim Stout: 1:02:50

St. Catherine of Genoa,

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:02:52

83% pandemic death

Tim Stout: 1:02:56

is a little bit higher than what we were just

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:02:58

a little bit higher.

Tim Stout: 1:03:00

You always have to have things in perspective. Hey, our next show is April 9. That's two weeks from tonight. And our guests are going to be Barbara and Eric Conklin. They're they're not new prisoners. I well. It's hard to say for me what's new pressure anymore? Because I've been, you know, not seeing prisoners for a year but they've been they've been around a couple years. Right. And great. Greg couple, they're spearheading the start of a new marriage ministry here I guess you kind of gave the blessing to do that at prior to COVID it started to get you know taken off and then COVID hit and you know they're fired back up here and kaelin actually went to a meeting last week I think it was last week. I'm excited about it. And we're gonna talk about it next week. And we're gonna be out of the studio we're gonna be live at always have trouble the name of this place slot, a slot a slot a it's a pub. So and we're going to be in the

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:04:03

upper room, upper room.

Tim Stout: 1:04:05

What a great place for some Catholics to beat in the upper room. I'm excited. You excited about

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:04:11

the upper room was the place where they offer mass for Scott County. First time, first time when the traveling priests. We stopped by Scott County two minutes from the family. He stay at that place. Where is the slanty right now and he had mass on the upper room and we bless that place.

Tim Stout: 1:04:30

I met with Steven I met with Ashley this morning Matt nationally known are the owners there it's latte and she told me he came up blessed it so they're I think they're excited to have us we've had a couple other events there but Dallas will he won't have to bring beer next week. That'll per two weeks. That'll be two shows in a row that he won't have to bring beer but Dallas, if you're listening, bring your wallet because you're opening the tab to pay for non Miller light. I don't think they serve your light there. So should be fine. It's a good way we'll we're in the middle of the easter season and really hear a lot about the marriage ministry which i think is is gonna be exciting

Unknown: 1:05:06

yes

Tim Stout: 1:05:07

it is got a lot a lot of new people involved in that organization too so excited about that so hey if you had a question and we didn't get to it because dallas isn't here he's the guy that monitors facebook hey just comment on the video and let us know so we'll see you next week you know i see a donate today button up there ssf j.org or sts ss francis john.org either want to get you there support our ministries the pandemic has been hard on us as as a collective we've we've managed to get through pretty good thanks to the generosity and support of our parishioners listeners school families through your hours of dedication through your contributions so ssf j.org is how you can continue to contribute to those things so hey father can you give us a blessing are you okay to do that yeah

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:06:06

let's do this

Tim Stout: 1:06:07

okay you could use a prayer st joe's

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:06:09

st joseph one of many glorious patriot st joseph whose power makes the impossible possible come to our aid in this time of anguish and difficulty take under your protection to serious and troubling situation that we commend to you that they may have a happy outcome my beloved father all our trust is in your in you let it not be said that we invoke you in vain and sinned you can do everything with jesus and mary show me that your goodness is as great as your power amen and may almighty god bless you the father and the son and the holy spirit amen

Tim Stout: 1:06:53

amen hey until next week i'm taking tim i'm father lynn deacon dallas is gone but good night everybody

Fr. Linh Nguyen: 1:06:59

good night everybody thank you see you at mass

Tim Stout: 1:07:02

amen

Unknown: 1:07:12

did you ever stop and think well i spent too much time i don't know or saying the thing that i haven't noticed then when i see my heart starts racing but i don't know if it's the same thing my hands are shaking