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Deacons Discussions Drinks #24 Christ in My Home - Fr. Charles & Fr. Linh
The Deacons sat down with Fr. Charles Howell, pastor of Good Shepherd Catholic Church to discuss Christ in My Home, a new ministry starting at SSFJ and Good Shepherd this weekend. We talked about the reason behind the ministry and how every family can participate. It was a great discussion and we think you will enjoy it.
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Fr. Charles Howell:Today is October 2 2020, Friday of the 26th week in Ordinary Time, and you are tuned into deacons, discussions and drinks.
Unknown:I don't know.
Fr. Charles Howell:Good evening, everybody and welcome to another episode of deacons discussions and drinks. I'm diggin Tim Stout. I'm diggin Dallas killing by the linguine. And we're live. We're not really we're not really like. We're back in the studio card home after week off second episode in a row where we have to priest and four deacons in the studio. That's a riddle. We'll let you figure that out. Tonight. We have father Charles Howe with us tonight. Welcome to the show father Charles.
Unknown:Blank on the job. And I say
Fr. Charles Howell:here, pastor at Good Shepherd in Frankfort. Oh, neighbor. Yeah, our close neighbor. Oh, good. Good Neighbor. Actually. He actually did a wedding for one of our expeditioners past parishioners. This past weekend. Yeah, the pearls. Yeah. I didn't see you at the reception. No, I wasn't there right into another mass. That's all good. It was a it was a good wedding from what we watched on live stream. So you live stream the wedding too. So good. We were just talking about before the show that live stream is the way to go in the world today for not just Catholic churches, but churches in general. Yeah. A good a good tool for evangelization. So. So we're back in the studio took a week off everybody recharged rejuvenated by Lynn Dallas.
Unknown:Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Fr. Charles Howell:It was just two weeks ago on this very show are falling late admitted that he's been on vacation since COVID. Started with with only one mass. So we had, we have that record recording and we will be doing a little bit of a cut that will be posted periodically so people can see that. We should send that to the bishop.
Unknown:Oh, he know that. He knows it. And he glad.
Fr. Charles Howell:He's glad so. So you're rejuvenated. Well, how about follow Charles? How are you having masses are you doing on a weekend? Right now? One, two, sometimes four, but usually three. See? Take. Take a lesson there.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Yeah, but he's not dealing with call dome mindset. Set up put down put up with Deacon Tim. And Steve friends cameraman.
Fr. Charles Howell:I have to deal with a legislator. God help us all. God bless you. Yeah. That's a good segue into current events. I'll start the train wreck that was inside of a dumpster fire was the debate this past week. Can we just cancel the rest of them
Dallas Kelley:are expensive just and I'm all for
Fr. Charles Howell:what what a disaster. And you know, I think that coming through this next few weeks, we're gonna hear a lot about with the Supreme Court nomination being Catholic and Joe Biden being Catholic, we're gonna see a lot of Catholicism
Unknown:30 started YouTube the day of death. I'm like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, a lot of stuff. A lot of stuffs coming out already. Yeah.
Fr. Charles Howell:So that's kind of my current event. I saw an article or letter actually. article from chiplet chiplet basically talking about, you know, an attack on Catholicism was attack on all of us. However, however it comes especially, you know, from what I've read about this nominee, she's regardless of what you think about her political views, but her Catholicism and her her definition of family and what she's done, she seems like a person of great faith and great character. So it'll be interesting to see how that all kind of plays out in the media.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Always ugly.
Fr. Charles Howell:No, it won't be pretty. It'll be ugly for
Fr. Linh Nguyen:sure. Ugly already. Some of the comment. They don't even know her. And just because she is a devout Catholic boy. It cut to the I heard one comment
Dallas Kelley:say that we were going to say What it's like to be cutting up on Mother Teresa? Hmm. Oh, yeah. You know, so how would that go over? You know, so we'll have to see.
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah, she belongs to a group. Something praise, I can't remember what the exact name of the group was. But, you know, they're digging deep. They're gonna dig deep.
Unknown:And the new fear that I recently heard, I thought I hadn't really reflected on I thought, yeah, you're right. majority,
Fr. Charles Howell:currently with the Supreme Court is Catholic, and be like, Oh, no, Catholics are taken over now. Like, wow, that's not what our agenda is, by no means. No. And you can see the diversity of the Catholics on the on the Supreme Court, the diversity in the Catholicism in practice Catholicism today,
Unknown:I gave it a little bit of thought, but I didn't get thinking, Well, why is that perhaps like that? Well, I guess, in the sense, it's a blessing. I don't know what you want to call it like that. But the sense of the stress that we as Catholics have put on for education, and formation. And so that's given people of ethnicities, galore. I don't care what race we are like that. For those who had the opportunity to have that great Catholic education. I think that gives you an open door to say, wow, you know, to find the higher ladders of education and opportunity, perhaps a hope. And that means for the poor, for the rich for the white, black. Anybody, hopefully, but getting people in the Catholic education. I think that's, that's one of the things I thought that might be a connection there to those
Fr. Charles Howell:as well. Absolutely. I think COVID has done that as well. We were talking about this our finance meeting this past week about a school enrollment and the impact of of that on on Catholic teaching or Catholic education as a result, you know, we our enrollment, Spike them. I don't know how to. So, you know,
Unknown:they haven't registered new one yet.
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah. And I think the longer that it goes on that people don't don't have a sense that the public schools are going to go back to more, you'll probably pick
Dallas Kelley:up and it's up to us to keep them what is our enrollment now? Do you know?
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Yep, that 137 now, we were expecting only survive at 92.
Tim Stout:So that's a
Unknown:that's a great thing. bigger numbers be way low, too. I was figuring like, we'll be lucky to get 60 we're way over that. Yeah. So
Fr. Linh Nguyen:but it's wonderful though. The the kids that on public school join us. Now solid, they loved it. They love being here with us. They love the religion, the lively discussion in religion class, they bring an interesting perspective. You know, some of them don't go to church at all that Oh, yeah.
Dallas Kelley:Like here, they do now, though, they do.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Oh, yeah, tried to do mass. I don't know what you're doing over there. Over here, we break them up. We've divided Middle School. And then one in four didn't afford, I don't know, be interesting. One of the segment of the group that I celebrating is kindergarten, and first grade. But they don't receive Communion.
Tim Stout:Good luck with that.
Fr. Charles Howell:Play Marvel, nice for that
Dallas Kelley:age range. But our middle school is here on site, and the rest is over there. So he's got to go back and forth, he goes back and forth,
Fr. Charles Howell:which is a great use of this campus. I mean, you know, that I've written out here a couple times, to the studio just dropped something, I'll pick something up. And to see the grades out on the lawn, obviously, that'll change with the weather. But, you know, the outside getting outside the space drop off, I think is better here, too. There's just a lot of benefits to be in here. And, you know, God's blessed us with this facility and using it and now we've been interested to try to evangelize to people that are some people that are on church, right. I mean, so.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:So this, you know, I've been preaching about COVID is the positive of COVID. You know, there are a lot of positive, bring the photos, you know, don't caught up with all the negativity and the anxiety and fear but that capture the positive. Today we celebrate great saying great, you know, Teresa, you know, last year, she kept to the positive of God. And and, you know, that's why I've been preaching about the positive of good things. It's good. Both of a very motivating.
Fr. Charles Howell:You pretend this weekend
Unknown:that you Oh,
Fr. Charles Howell:yeah, you just told me I had a first communion, baptism, baptism and the blessing of the animals to throw into the homily. So I decided just to make my homily ultra short think about the banquet, and then you guys bought the banquet, right? No, it's the vineyard, the vineyard. Yeah. And we better be producing good fruit. That's the last statement as well. We better be producing good fruit. So that's what I preach on. Anyway, we'll see. I'm gonna give you plenty of time, do your your baptism wherever on these grounds you want to go. You just need to let the cameraman know beforehand so he can cover whatever you're gonna do. So garnavich Dallas.
Dallas Kelley:Well, I was gonna my current event was gonna be the Cincinnati Reds but that's not much of a current event they finally make the postseason and Kane score run in 23 innings but, uh two games 23 innings no runs yeah the first game win 13 ain't no didn't score around in the first game didn't go round second game, but
Fr. Linh Nguyen:it's eight years since a playoff.
Dallas Kelley:It's been a while. It's been so many years. I forget. I think
Fr. Charles Howell:it's kind of like being a Bengals fan. Right.
Dallas Kelley:And I have a Bengals fan too. Steve, how about you over? He's a bangle and well, they didn't lose last time they tired. Right?
Fr. Charles Howell:Like so it was that was a miracle. They tied? Oh, two and one. So well, then how about you? Kind of it?
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Well, I guess it can be a current event. You know, I brought father char here. Why don't the event um you know, the the program that that we I hate the word use a program, the ministry, we want to introduce a good father john, I, we we our parents actually do a lot of thing together. Because we have we share we our brother in our support. We ordained Lily within we were in seminary at the same time, we do a lot of crazy thing together. But we enjoy each other. And so because of the nature of the diocese, it's a missionary diocese, oftentimes, we exhaust so much resources, and try to compete with each other. But instead of that we tried to share with each other like our youth minister, we share Catherine Catherine Coleman, and we share in that ministry. And so during this covid her, you know, do he and I were talking about, you know, what else can we do that expand this ministry? So one of the things we came up with Christ in my home. So basically a reflection. Some of you probably hear, you know, saw on our website and on YouTube and Facebook and see that is a introduction of a gospel, um, with a few questions for the family to get together during that week to think about and reflect about. And it's the way to introduce Ministry of clergymen that mean you guys are all involved, but you don't know that yet.
Dallas Kelley:But well, you told us about five minutes before we went on the air. So
Fr. Charles Howell:there you go. We're we're so excited. So we didn't have anything else to do. We were like, we were getting ready to shovel snow. Oh, we get this to this great
Fr. Linh Nguyen:short video. But you know, he and I were talking about that it the the conflict, but not a conflict of disappointment. Many of our young people, especially in St. JOHN, at normal, Good Shepherd, they go to Catholic school. But they don't go to church on Sunday,
Unknown:though. Bella Lin and I were talking when a few weeks ago or something like that. And I had this slapping a wake up experience. And I admit, be the first to admit, I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. I'm pretty slowly getting some stuff. But I remember one time at Good Shepherd school as toward the end of school. And the kids were had their last hurrah, last mass and graduation, stuff like that. And when the kids was leaving a very faithful, you know, kids from the wonderful family stuff like that. And he left he said, Father, see ya see in August. And I paused I said, See you in August. Where are you going? You're going out of town, you move in, you're going to travel. Now, School's out. He says, I'm I'm not gonna see you all summer long. You're not traveling, no schools that we don't go to Mass on Sundays. And it was like, poured cold water on me thinking, Wow, what a reality I need to catch up with the times. And that was some of the realities I found out our Catholic families are living with I thought, whoa, how do we build that bridge with them? How do we connect with them? And that's the reality this family this child was well, we only go to Mass on Thursday, Sunday, but mass you go to and it's a shame to hear some of the kids in school say what nice to go to Tuesday.
Fr. Charles Howell:Tuesday, something's wrong. You're looking for a time and they're giving you a day. Right? That's a problem for sure. I know there's a there's a head coach that doesn't go to church on Sunday. We won't talk about that. Unless I'm glad they're going to mass period. Right?
Unknown:Absolutely. We'll knock that but just kind of looking at the imminence and the preeminence I should say that the Lord's day Sunday when we all are invited to do that. Unless we just Catholic he does come together fulfill your obligation as best you can.
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah, I mean, do you what do you think the both of you What do you think the reason behind that is I mean is obviously the parents are making a sacrifice to send their kids to to Catholic school. Most of them are Catholic, but not all of them. But most of Catholic yet they don't practice their faith on Sunday, but they're willing to make the sacrifice of the cost associated with Catholic education. Where's the disconnect there,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:but the disconnection it has to do with they most of them have been formed in the Catholic education. Um, the disjoint is that they don't associate with education, in tune with a sacrament of the life of the church. And so, they are the product of the baby boom, and now they are the children of the baby boom. And so they themselves, they themselves never have a chance to really deeply catechized I think one of the fotor, if you will, I don't know if I the drive comment on that. A Vatican two. But again, two, came out so aggressively about the nature of the church, but never have a chance to really catechize people agree evolve into it. And so therefore, there is this joint, what you your experience is no different than what I experience. You know, we have school activity, you know, they require them in the church, they don't go the church. Um, even with CCD,
Fr. Charles Howell:yeah, you know, what, whatever, that last year, you had a real issue with several families that, yeah, just work on the church or
Fr. Linh Nguyen:the church. And, and there was a time I was trying to not matter of church, okay, not going to church for that thing. So I would often adult formation in the same time with the CCD in conjunction. So while the kid in school, I hope to get the parents there, to learn something as well, till I was outside, you know, me, you know, I poke on to them, and some of them as a father. This is only time I got, you know, to do some running. And they meant it. They don't see, take the opportunity to learn with the kids. It's Sunday man, Sam thing at math, school math on Tuesday for us. I asked the kids, you know, how many of you are going to mass on Saturday night and Sunday are not going to third of them raise their hand. It just blow
Fr. Charles Howell:my mind. And part of that culture, culture driven to right because now it used to be that you wouldn't have soccer games or sports or athletics or competition, that's
Unknown:my angle right there. Good competition in the sense of also scholarships, you're good at athletics, you're good chance you're gonna get a scholarship to go to college. So it's, it's begins early in elementary, middle school, and in the high school, and hopefully, in the college, you're going to get a scholarship. So there's a temptation that said, say, Man, that's a big temptation to say, maybe get a scholarship to get a great education as college education if you're a good, athletic, you know, athletic person. Like, that's a real temptation. I think for a lot of us have to face that I think parents had to face too, you know,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:but the issue, I think it's all begin with the parents themselves. You know, right now was Bishop bedroom, one side, we are three generation behind in character formation three generations. So in other words, if we need to capture to strengthen the nature of the church, we should begin kids in middle school right now. They will recover the Catholic Church. You know, my generation, our
Fr. Charles Howell:generation has said that again, explain that,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:again. We are three generations loss information, of the nature of the church.
Fr. Charles Howell:So our generations done the shot. Okay, can't recapture
Fr. Linh Nguyen:can't recapture, we do our best, you know, God will do God miracle, you know, right. But truly, for the church formation point of view, we have to begin with kids in middle school. That is, that's when we begin right now, for the next 20 years. 30 years down the road. I
Unknown:remember I was in seminary with one of my liturgy professors. And he said something that stuck with me, I thought, Wow, it's pretty radical statement he made and it really struck with me because I came into full communion with the Catholic Church from a whole different background when he said that I agree with you. Yes, this is what he said. He said, renewal will come back to the Catholic Church, when we begin and renew Sunday school on Sundays,
Fr. Charles Howell:people at home, and I was like, amen.
Unknown:And that's radical to think I have to come to mass and spend how much time at church. And so if we looked at the possibility, this is a radical idea, but look at the possibility of having formation for the entire Parish, adult, and our youth and children and then go into mass. That's what I was raised with. And that's the only way I knew
Fr. Charles Howell:how to do it. But just what's your faith?
Unknown:background? I was raised in Southern Baptist, Pentecostal church afterwards. Same thing though. There's an X dictation that you will come to Sunday school, you will read your Bible have your lesson ready, and the head and then you go into the the assembly of worshiping God together with that same lesson. And it just all connected. And it's like and he left. So there was a sacrifice of probably two hours on Sunday, at least two hours, two hours, 10 minutes and like that for family, then you all went out to breakfast or dinner together. And it continued on and for.
Fr. Charles Howell:And then sometimes you came back Sunday night,
Unknown:Sunday night, and then Wednesday night. So it was a lifestyle of breathing. That's what he did, you know, but at least is that at least Sunday school, I think if we could do that, and make that commitment both on the parish level. And I think another thing is, I think for us as clergy, I know for me, I can speak to that. Again, I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree. But it takes me a while to look. And I remember one time I was talking to another kid one time and and we were talking about something to do and trying to make this very it was a sacramental moment. Let's put it that way. Okay. was a sacramental moment. And I was talking about so what can we do perhaps repentance here. And I suggested to this young man, I said, What So what? So for your penance, how much you take the trash out after dinner and help mom set the table that evening for dinner? And he looked at me like me talking about mice, he just didn't connect? And I said, Can you help me out when he said, No. We don't need around the dinner table. Where do you eat?
Fr. Charles Howell:At the foot of my bed,
Unknown:the television on by myself?
Fr. Linh Nguyen:I get it. Man, I gotta get up today. This is what
Unknown:your family really is now. And this is a reality some of the kids are living in. So here we're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole about church Sunday obligation, Sunday school. And I think one of the things we really have to do is enter into the realm of where the nuclear family is today from clergy, but half and say, let us learn what's going on out there. And then from that point, we get a better understanding empathically hopefully, and then say now, how do we do this with church teaching sacred tradition, things like that, and find a new way of matching these two things.
Fr. Charles Howell:That's a it's a good point. And it's actually it's interesting that you said that because of a completely different perspective. My trainer was telling me that most people that come to him, and he helps with their diets don't eat around the table either. So people when they have trouble controlling what they ate, they take their food, they go to their bedroom, they get in front of the TV. And it's the sense of entertainment really, is what really what we're talking about. It's how people's minds are expanded, not based on being a family, but being on what's in front of the screen in front of them and how they're being entertained is
Unknown:so different. And I'm not saying it's just different from when I weigh errors, right? Oh, absolutely. Yes. My dad was military guy. This is what happened in our family when I grew up. When dinnertime came it was 6pm never failed. 6pm dad wanted dinner on the table at 6pm. all eight of us in the family gathered. Devi went off the phone went off the hook. He said prayer. We had dinner. We talked we shared, we laughed, we fought and everything. Afterwards, dad would finish. After dessert. He turned his chair around and he turned on uncle Walter and watch Walter Cronkite in the news. And he had to come to the table with your hands clean. No bare bare chested he had to have a clean t shirt on no caps at the table. I think you know, wow, that's the generation I grew up in. And I think it doesn't
Fr. Charles Howell:work today. But it sounds pretty good. Yeah, it really does. It sounds really good. I mean, that's I mean, that's
Dallas Kelley:some of the old shows the The Brady Bunch is the lever to be that's why they're so popular. The Andy Griffith Yeah. People want that. You know, it looks so good, but good luck. Good luck.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Let me hold that thought bigger I need we need to promote out of ministry. Absolutely get that is the reason why Christ in my home is about that. It's a good people opportunity. It'll be good COVID I you know, I've been telling you guys, I love to promote COVID not because of the pandemic
Fr. Charles Howell:because you're a survivor,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:but I'm a survivor. I am so via COVID. I would have showed. But the point is, so many people have spent time together with bickering, but how wonderful it is to have a biblical, a gospel for the family. Like I say we talked about that we promoted what is a family unit not farming dad and kids, single mother, you know, a guardian grandmother with somebody you know, somebody live in the same family blended family can use this very simple reflection. And it's just valuable sacred time to think about God. Not what we would do next. What on television. What are we going to eat? You know who the hell is Trump Who the hell is Biden, but it's about God, I think
Unknown:on that level, what sutherlands talking about, and what I mean, this is my buzzword for the theology of Pope Francis, as perplexes. That may be for a lot of people, like I can't figure what this guy's doing or what he says and things like that. The word that I came up with, maybe it's out three before, but it's a theology of encounter ism, a theology of encounter ism. And here it is, in one sentence, meet a person where they are not where I want them to be. First, that's the first step. And so in Christ in our home, that's what we hope to do is to meet the family, the person, individual couple, whatever the situation may meet him where they are. But here's what Jesus always did, because he did that. He always met a person, right where they were, right where they are in the scriptures. Here's the key. He never left them there. Something different happened
Tim Stout:to him, we hope to do he brought him with him. Right?
Unknown:So meet the family meet the individual through Christ in my home, right where they are, and the sense of okay, but the hope and the challenges, here's a question I thought, not gonna leave you where you are. And Jesus isn't one thing,
Tim Stout:right? That's good.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:The hope is with this pro program, no. Ministry ministry is one of the family fine to the spirit that finds something together. The best place to bring that up and furthermore, it's a Eucharist as on Sunday. Take each other to Sunday Mass. You know, an awful freakin thanks and praise to Jesus. Not hard, you know. So, the hope that that this ministry is excitement for opening parochial school, public school. Elders, deacons, families, priests, families, you know, TV guys, families, you know, all of us can participate in this short, it's not long. What's the video, share the reflection questions, and think about it do something for each other sometime.
Dallas Kelley:Oh, once the punch, we record to refresh and how is it sent out? I mean, just through the through the facebook, facebook, social media, basically everything we've been used.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:And then there'll be questions posted on the website that Pamela can download it. And that's another thing that as was wonderful. Father char his parents offered to us this first year service is the forms. A is a an organization that can download for movies, kind of chemical formation, theology, from preschool, first grade, and all. So the family can actually download that
Unknown:and share it anywhere and anywhere in the world can download it and share it and eight, Southeast Asia, nine states have something like this. So
Fr. Linh Nguyen:with this with this ministry is wonderful is that if Dallas decide to get on the boat to go bass fishing with Sherry, and sometimes john, you know,
Fr. Charles Howell:these two people know that to say, just two people in the boat. He could he could I mean, it's true, though. I mean, right? Our families are on the go. Right? They they spend not as much time at home. I mean, like you were talking about the way you're raised. There's just people are not as they are now during COVID. But pre COVID, and post COVID they just weren't in their homes that much. They weren't spending time together. They weren't in a position to to share that. And I think, you know, if, if we can do set this up so that they can do it mobile? Yep, that's gonna be
Fr. Linh Nguyen:very mobile. Yeah. Anytime, anywhere to go. The family can sit down, half an hour together. Even in a fast food restaurant. You can watch on your iPhone and talk about it before you eat. jello.
Unknown:The quick format is basically the presenter reads the gospel for the coming Sunday. And then a brief reflection, not even a homily. It's just a brief reflection. And then kind of at the end something to stimulate your imagination and maybe like a homework assignment, an action task, try this in your family. And it's just simple, easy stuff that could say, oh, let's apply the gospel this week. And then you come to mass already having heard it already. Having practiced it in some ways, you can imagine. Oh, wow, this makes a whole lot more sense. Now on Sunday morning or Saturday evening.
Fr. Charles Howell:I agree with that. If you if, if if I would have known that growing up my face might have been a little bit deeper if I would have prepared, prepared for Sunday, you know, you because you roll in people, the vast majority people roll in and they may or may not hear what you're saying up there. Right. So I agree. I think it's a it's a good, a good, good practice to be in front of it instead of the other way of giving the reflection for the previous Sunday. I like that idea. Who came up with that
Unknown:idea. kind of come
Fr. Linh Nguyen:together. We kind of rub back and forth be talking about you know, Colvin And then you know everybody alone and spend a lot of time together and then people go to Mass and people say goodbyes by the char I'll see you in August.
Unknown:And by the lynah we agreed that think the words that we keep coming up with is strike when the iron is hot, right. And the pandemic is made dire not
Fr. Charles Howell:know how to no doubt about it was looking. You got to YouTube stuff you got to find that is what the Catholic one of the other Catholic podcasts think I shared this with you a couple weeks ago. If the church has a rainy day fund, if your parish has a rainy day fund, it is time to spend it now on technology to get in front of people that no reason to hold on to it. Now this is this is what we've been waiting for.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:I suppose I have a rich Deacon. Awesome. Where's he it? He I'm looking at? This is no it's not what thank you for your car.
Fr. Charles Howell:is only half mine is huge here. Your rich camera. But you know, we're both rich Steve.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:This place came about was you know, Deacon Tim have this idea. And Steve, you know, he's professional, he will literally for the bangles. And because he can involve in that. So all this beautiful equipment. He turned to Jesus. And there we are. And so now we have a setting that tried to engage and just no different than what what you and I, and others Catherine and Laura involved in this and try to break this thing open and and see how the Holy Spirit lead us. This calls Greek for creativity. Hmm,
Unknown:very creative. Everyone's got to find their creative vein or strike it somehow and say now's the time to do it.
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah, when we thought of this. This I mean to do our first episode was Dallas was in his car, and I was at my house. And that was
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Oh, I remember that.
Fr. Charles Howell:It was it was it was kind of interesting, though. It didn't evolve pretty quickly from there. Right? So here we are not 20. I would say 20. This is our 24th episode, Episode 24th episode, but we took a couple weeks off in there, but we so we've been at it half a year. I mean, we'd never thought Steve and I were talking about this before. At that thought I'd be sitting here in October, doing a podcast on a Thursday night. It is Thursday night here. You'll be watching this
Dallas Kelley:on Friday. I mean, like most people, we thought COVID be over in a couple of months.
Fr. Charles Howell:And Originally, it was something that we wanted to kind of, I guess when our parish a few years ago we did, we did something called doctrine and drinks to kind of tailored after theology on tap. We didn't want pay the licensing fee. So, you know, everybody in the church gets their licensing fee. So we we thought about that. And then originally we said deacons, discussions and doctrine. And we started the gate guest so what better way to invite a guest to have a drink. Welcome them. And so it wasn't always about doctrine. It was a little bit about stories, you know, faith journeys, current events and doctrine. And and I really think well as we continue this, I think we all agree we're going to continue this for the foreseeable future anyway, but the doctrine is an important part of that because one of the things with all of our guests that we hear quite a bit is that we haven't catechized and your kit what you're saying three generations and it's a problem you know, and you can never really make it up you can't ever really get there but doesn't mean you give up It doesn't mean you stop you got to meet people where they're at have that encounter. So very well said no, what's the first episode
Fr. Linh Nguyen:of gonna be we the family will receive this weekend on the October 4 to be paid for the October 11 so come in the afternoon or something
Unknown:okay,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:yeah, Father char will be the first episode
Unknown:I just videoed mine today. Just video yesterday Sunday of Ordinary and talking about the great banquet the king throws where his son and even throws one of the guests out
Fr. Charles Howell:what does that mean? It's not a party till somebody gets thrown. Who's got number two?
Fr. Linh Nguyen:I think is me. Okay.
Fr. Charles Howell:And so we're scheduled somewhere Oh,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:you want to schedule Don't worry I hope I'm not oh well don't wait
Dallas Kelley:for the day before
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Well, you will you know there'll be
Unknown:a large putting together a schedule and
Fr. Charles Howell:as long as Laura is in charge of it it will be it'll kind of be like this baptism this weekend. Who's gonna get the passcode candle or the font or you know who's in charge of that will happen okay with you? I thought we're not in church anymore.
Unknown:And one more thing we're looking at too is it'll be translated into Spanish for us to be a dubbed presentations that would be Spanish underneath it. We kind of kid like, you know, it's like the Godzilla movie. Not like that. We're still speaking in English but it's under
Fr. Charles Howell:underneath. You know, hey, you need to get you need to get Ramon to help. We've already got him. Yeah, go problem. I'm gonna boost
Unknown:ombre the radio man
Fr. Charles Howell:radio man we need to have him on here. We're gonna have you know he's our our classmate. So yeah, so he said he sat behind us for four years with decontaminant Claudia and just a good friend really just a great you know, regardless of the fact that he's a Spanish speaking person just as an individual great guy great story complex what he accomplished with education they have just an amazing story then you throw in the Spanish what he what he means to the Spanish speaking community. I mean, it's he was said my god there's no lesson there's no other no other way to describe it. Let's see. So does he come out to the Good Shepherd or
Unknown:when I need them or if he's out there and we work several situations are just together like that and everything so like I said, I helped to Bishop appointed me as the moderator for Catholic Charismatic Renewal for the diocese and so we've had some situations with you know, Spanish speaking people like that I think okay, I don't speak Spanish fluently by any means. So anyway I this little skills I do have I try to use you convinced me just a second but anyway, so have someone fluently speaking that remote doing a blessing in many situations, I think for all of our parishes
Fr. Charles Howell:is a good one you you tried to get in Georgetown how'd that work out for you?
Fr. Linh Nguyen:But easy we're not totally agree yet.
Fr. Charles Howell:You still negotiation negotiations. Okay, good deal. Got few to get rid of father Danny Taylor's fluent in Spanish. Yes. He's very good. He's a good one.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:So for the next class, we might end up with two Hispanic from our church. Oh, in the deacon burger. Be the bishop still looking for more Hispanic Spanish speaking
Tim Stout:before he starts the next class? Well, the next class because there's not one started yet.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Right. Right. When he made the focus more, we need more Spanish speaking so I haven't put two classes. I'm still planning on learning Spanish I used to plan now.
Dallas Kelley:I work with your work is going to double
Fr. Charles Howell:it. I know Deacon john watches this and I'd love to say this because he will call me tomorrow night. He will call me after this episode airs when I say this, but he told us when weird formation. Whatever you do, don't want Spanish. Oh, he say that. Then he gave us one of these.
Unknown:Oh,
Fr. Charles Howell:so No, he didn't really mean it. He was just trying to explain that if you learned Spanish, there's a whole nother world that's right opens up and we see it in our parish. You know, the baptisms. I've done the Spanish baptism even not even speaking Spanish,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:you know, but no more. No,
Unknown:that was it was challenging. I did want it.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:You got one. Yes.
Dallas Kelley:Luckily, somebody that showed up knew a little English. And I was
Fr. Charles Howell:you know, God works in mysterious way. So you know, hope that I touched the map, my contribution to glory is exactly that was I did what I could do.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:So you say your baptismal or you stay new. So but
Fr. Charles Howell:I'm pretty sure I said, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that's gonna be that's gonna be a great discussion from here until eternity from now on. If you missed the show, Father, Danny told us this is a great story. He he was cleaning out his mom's garage as because of COVID. And he found a tape to father Dan, or as a father Day is a Danny's baptism. And he's like, okay, I'll see if I'm really free. And he puts it in and it was taped over. A cartoon, it was a cartoon. So we're just assume that he is right. That's that's a
Fr. Linh Nguyen:lot more cases. It's, I was bad as an
Dallas Kelley:as 60. So you never know. So?
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah. And his was a judgment. Right. Did he say by passing? Oh,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:father. Kevin, oh, him. Good. Judge would have a lift chair at the Oh, Bob Murphy.
Tim Stout:Yeah. Bob Murphy baptize to
Fr. Charles Howell:give me so. So.
Dallas Kelley:I mean, was there a time that y'all could remember where they put in the UI instead of the I mean? No, because in the 60s, they were using that the late 60s, creator, Redeemer and sanctifier Do you remember that?
Fr. Linh Nguyen:No, it never made me into the church, you know,
Dallas Kelley:and I mean, there were several done and I had a
Unknown:situation like that had additional baptism because I had done a little detective work and I suspected it strongly. But when I got their certificate it said on there literally in the name of creator. All right. There's my evidence.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Remember, at one of the retreat under Bishop Gaynor and the spiritual body there was a debate the respawn with him and us remember that St. meinrad and Bishop john Bishop gainer stop everybody and say, okay, the rubric say is his. So therefore we need to go with his Oh, remember that? I think my read. So everybody changes now so the whole thing is Jake, pronouns.
Tim Stout:Rep. The pronouns matter, right?
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Oh, yes, fatty matter
Fr. Charles Howell:which I could have used this I have a current of another curve and I'm gonna add in I guess, did you see the governor referred to God as he or she
Dallas Kelley:did not say,
Tim Stout:yeah, there's a there's a video out there
Fr. Linh Nguyen:but which government Andy
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah, in this press conference and I think what he was he was trying to be I don't think it's his personal belief. I think he was just trying to be inclusive and bring everybody in. But no matter what you do today, it's it can be controversial.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Oh, yeah. It's kind of like, everything's being watched. Just be like Dallas, stay with a doctrine. And we'll be okay.
Dallas Kelley:He's talking to you. He's
Fr. Charles Howell:day with a dog. Well, I'm gonna follow your advice this weekend. Just keep it short and sweet. So or as father Dennis Robertson likes to say, follow the damn rules.
Dallas Kelley:remember vividly that. I can't tell you one thing. Follow one thing Follow The Damn rules.
Unknown:And he's right. It is a twist of a southern accent.
Fr. Charles Howell:he's a he's a great guy. For sure. So Christ in my home, look for it in your email, I guess right now and, and facebook, facebook and perish website,
Fr. Linh Nguyen:this website?
Fr. Charles Howell:Is it going on? Both Facebook's semi Facebook site? And do you have a YouTube channel as well?
Unknown:Well, everything pretty much that Okay.
Fr. Charles Howell:Yes. So and I didn't know Steve, I think you put that welcome up on your actually went to your, your YouTube channel, we probably ought to set that up as a playlist for the parishes website. So everybody can catch that starting Sunday afternoon, hopefully after mass. Super. So what else is going on in good shepherd church up in Frankfort know something good about what's going on there? COVID. Obviously, well
Unknown:change things for you. I've hoped for the same for St. JOHN school and St. Francis and john school. But we have been in person. And I mean, our faculty at the school and our principal and our principals. I think you've worked so hard to an in person. I think it was the right decision. still difficult decision to admit. But to this date. To it knock on wood. No covid cases are healthy. Still. The kids are healthy. The faculty is healthy. I'm liking Wow. You know, we just being conscientious. Follow the rules, follow rules,
Tim Stout:rules, it applies outside of theology, too. Right?
Unknown:Yeah. And this sense of just and the kids are wonderful. And I think so, you know, and if we do get a case, okay, we're gonna follow health department's rules and say do what they say to do
Fr. Charles Howell:contact tracing all that good stuff. Exactly.
Unknown:So horn right now, everything's been going great for that. And I'm thinking thank God, you know, so
Fr. Charles Howell:that's good news to me. Awesome. Awesome. So you've been at how long have you been a good shepherd? 13 years also, y'all were assigned at the same time to me.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Well, the truth is he was supposed to replace me.
Fr. Charles Howell:Are you just gonna swap or swap why
Fr. Linh Nguyen:not just sent him here. I think I enjoyed it good. He's having
Tim Stout:a sound effect. Right.
Fr. Charles Howell:So 13 years so I think all assignments this year got put on hold right price of COVID. So both of y'all might be up for movement again next year. What's your what how many parishes Have you been at in the diocese since ordination?
Unknown:Three. So three, well, I had three that I had. It was one parish assignment, though. And my former parish so I had three
Tim Stout:sites. Where was that? Where's it? I was
Unknown:pastored in London, Eastbourne stat and Manchester had three worship sites but one pastor for all three pay so I was a I was on my horse a lot but
Fr. Charles Howell:galloping a lot. That's not really the mountains but it's kind of the foothills I guess, right? Yeah.
Unknown:Yeah. Well, Winchester definitely mountains. Oh, yeah. That's right. We get close enough. Close up here in the mountains in your Lake County. You're in the mountains.
Fr. Charles Howell:Clay County of it. So good shepherd. How does that compare to St. JOHN? That same size, they bigger they with a
Fr. Linh Nguyen:lot bigger, well established. A lot of elderly, a lot of government officials, a lot of politics.
Unknown:there's anything you can happen. The former pastor when he left after he left he called me back about two days later, he said because sometimes pastors meet and they think well okay, here's some load and we don't talk about people right? We just talk about here's some things you'll just challenge with it. And so he says one more thing I forgot. You better be ready to deal with politics in Frankfort, Kentucky. I thought oh my goodness. And he's right. So it'd be stepping in at the foot of the hill of Capitol Hill there in the parish, the Catholic parish of Capitol Hill is a lot of going on.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:You know, you did you did you do a lot of pray service at the Capitol. And then a chaplain Catholic chaplain, chaplain there,
Unknown:the Senate and the House. We do services up there lint, and all kinds of stuff like that. So but then, then you got legislators that come to mass and the phone calls and you get connectivity. You got Catholics at the Capitol? Yeah, that's a funny one, man. You
Fr. Charles Howell:know, you work real closely with Jason Aldean at cck. Yeah, good, man.
Unknown:They're really good, man. That's true up there, man. All we do without them.
Fr. Charles Howell:Politics is a different game, for sure. It's a tough environment. Man. Those lobbyists they earn, you know, lobbyists sometimes get a bad name. They really do. But at least I think from the Catholic perspective, what the work that they're doing is, is amazing
Unknown:release in Holland, Andrew vandiver are just phenomenal people. And they seem to love what they do to like, have at it. Love it.
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah. There's nothing good about politics in my mind. Really. I mean, it's, you know, it's so different than it was even five years ago, but 10 years ago, even even more so. But it's I think it's partly destroying our culture. It's so so bad I don't think
Dallas Kelley:a religion
Tim Stout:that's a good way to look at
Fr. Linh Nguyen:another way we can set it
Fr. Charles Howell:yes on Facebook ad for a T shirt for trumpets at Trump is my king. And then that's looking at one of the comments somebody said who could wear that shirt? But it is you're right it's a it's a faith it comes another religion
Tim Stout:it's a
Fr. Linh Nguyen:different world the work that he does you didn't I'm very fashion it's tough. You know sometime you in the crossfire right? Oh,
Fr. Charles Howell:yeah. Anytime you man. So the pastor there has has a few more levers a good shepherd has a few more arrows that that they need in their quiver, so to speak. So. Any there's no prisons in Frankfort? Oh, no.
Unknown:The Franklin County Detention Center. Okay. So as far as the state prison well, Franklin County Detention Center is both county and state. State people there too, as well.
Tim Stout:So you, you do some prison ministry there as well. So you don't do that here. You don't have
Fr. Linh Nguyen:only when they need me. They kind of restrict
Fr. Charles Howell:so they were shut down. Our jail was shut down for six or eight weeks without COVID outbreak and they weren't even taken.
Unknown:They're not letting us in still. Right. Any any ministers like that, at this point, the jail and detention center but
Fr. Charles Howell:that's how it is with my mom haven't seen my mom since March. We got within two days of having porch visits. And then they got another positive case. So they reset the timer. So that's the hard part for COVID for me is when that pin Oh, see my mama. So there's just one. There's a lot of people like that. And they'll Steve's like they can't go see his mom.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:So then how to sneak out.
Fr. Charles Howell:Well, I thought about that. But you know mom's not in the best of health and she hasn't left left in the last seven months. So I'm not sure I could get her out. And if I got her out, she goes in isolation, which isn't really truly different for her but it is an option. You know, something worth considering. But
Fr. Linh Nguyen:you able to talk to her FaceTime that hey,
Fr. Charles Howell:we FaceTime all the time when she when she wants to talk. She doesn't like to talk a lot. But when she wants something she she calls me when I call her she doesn't answer unless you need something.
Dallas Kelley:Your parents still around. Now both of them deceased. Thank God. Mom died right before we were already in following Kanan did the mass in Louisville. We were already it was right at the point where we wasn't offering the cup. That first little thing we were doing it masses. Nobody can receive the cup
Fr. Charles Howell:and it took the holy water fonts out. You
Dallas Kelley:know, I was right when that's when she died. So we got a full funeral and I think it was two days later. Nobody can have a funeral.
Unknown:Oh, my mom passed right as it started. Yeah, that was a night basically. Yeah, pretty much because remember the visitation? People like over come like it just broke out and broke
Fr. Linh Nguyen:our room. Yeah, your mom is right behind his mom. Right within a week looks like
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah, I think that's the hardest part is is the funerals was brutal. Yeah. I mean, the wedding side of it. You know, people have some some options on the wedding side of things the way they celebrator or whatever. But, you know, in the heart of COVID and the funerals just think those
Unknown:don't hug don't shake hands. Don't that's that's it since it can't say that anybody at a funeral? I did. I did a Christian thing to say it's a you can't hug separate. It's like
Fr. Charles Howell:it's very hard. I did a funeral just last week. And lo Well, that was a tough one for my from triple homicide. Buddy, my nephew, good friend of mine. Snuffy was was killed. And you know, we were hugging. You know? It's just not it's we're we're people that need contact, we need to be conversing with people we need to be. I'll use the word in communion with people just like we need to be in communion with each other. When we talk about masses, the same thing at at a funeral or a wedding or any other sacraments, we have to be able to touch each other.
Unknown:It's just about to say several months ago now and several months ago, during the pandemic, the Bay County Health Department reported was a increase or jump of 20% increase cases in Fayette County. And they were led to or suspected to the Hispanic Latino community. And people are asking why is that? So like that, not to stop my job is knowing that Latino, Hispanic hard, you touch up, you hang out with your family. And it's culturally, it's very difficult in that culture, as well as many others to separate families apart. us don't do that. And to say you can't hug you can't be together. That's gonna be very challenging for many cultures.
Fr. Charles Howell:And as time goes on, you know, you could deal with it. I think psychologically, you can deal with it in a short term. But we're not fundamentally going to change and the people that don't interact with people, we will it'll kill us. it'll, it'll, it'll destroy, it'll destroy us. If we can't be in person with somebody and shake their hands and give them a hug. And sure, similar ologies prove that Yeah. And that's kind of what our doctor we had on a few weeks ago said, you know, the bigger thing that's going to happen with COVID is the psychological
Fr. Linh Nguyen:and almost psychological.
Fr. Charles Howell:We haven't really figured out yet so. Well, Charles, thanks for being here with us tonight. We're not done yet. We have a thing called saying of the day and the saying of the day is not St. Teresa of the zoo, because that was yesterday, which is today. So we do a little thing called say today we use St. Francis. St. At St. Franciscan. Yeah, so today's saint of the day is actually tomorrow, say the day for us. It's the feast of the guardian angels. So here is st of the day.
Unknown:This is Franciscan media's and Saint of the day for October 2. Today we celebrate the guardian angels. All parents can take comfort in the belief that an angel protects their little ones from dangers real and imagined. Yet guardian angels are not just for children. Their role is to represent individuals before God to watch over them always to aid their prayer and present their souls to God at death. The concept of an angel assigned to guide and nurture each human being flows from Scripture. Jesus's words in Matthew's Gospel best support the belief. See that you do not despise one of these little ones for I say to you that there are angels in heaven always look upon the face of my Heavenly Father. devotion to the angels began to develop with the birth of the monastic tradition in the church. St. Benedict gave an impetus in the sixth century, St. Bernard of clairvaux, the great 12th century reformer was such an eloquent spokesman for guardian angels, that devotion to them spread in the very form it has to this day. Today's feast is an expression of faith in God's enduring love and providential care extended to each of us day in and day out until life's and there's more about the saints along with inspiration and Catholic resources at our website. Saint of the day.org from Franciscan media. This has been saved to the de
Fr. Charles Howell:Saint of the day the guardian angels, everybody has one right?
Dallas Kelley:Oh yeah, that's what I hear.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Oh, minds working overtime.
Dallas Kelley:I picked up is your guardian angel. A covid survivor are they close enough to get it? He's
Fr. Linh Nguyen:very close and he is very distance. Keep saving my
Unknown:safety and tell us who it is. I can't tell your guardian angel.
Fr. Linh Nguyen:Oh, you have a guardian angel has a name. Oh, man do
Unknown:your show. Yeah, I gave my middle name because I don't like the habit of like it.
Fr. Charles Howell:It's one of those things. I'm pretty sure that probably separates us from some of our evangelical friends right? Oh yeah. Guardian Angel. You
Fr. Linh Nguyen:know I love this time all the great feasts we celebrate the Guardian the archangels Okay. And then Jerome Jerome is very you know not one of the great thing about Jerome is fascinating was on relevant radio. I didn't know that. You know how we get into biblical study? Because he has so much sexual temptation. So he asked God and he said, You know what, I'm gonna study Hebrews and translate the whole Bible in it. And that's how safe is but I guess great. And then we sell it to resellers your you know the little flower flowers and she's not as well you know.
Fr. Charles Howell:But Fatima this
Fr. Linh Nguyen:month I'm 15 years old and turned to a doctor with a judge you kidding me? And now we sell it. We got it. It's so low price that we have a fit of all this celebration, you know, I'm saying guardian angel. You kidding me? You know
Unknown:it's interesting. When I grew up in the Southern Baptist tradition, there's a humongous season around Christmas time. Huge offering throughout the world for Southern Baptist. It's called a lot of noon Christmas offering the Lottie moon ottimo. She's a wonderful woman, great missionary, to both China and Japan to the Asian countries. And she this woman was an evangelist, she rocked. And this is I think, in the late 1800s, things like that, you know, early 1900s and she was very effective. And so I was I just thought Lottie moon came to my mind, I thought, who is Lottie moon now? on YouTube? I was looking at all these things. And there's several the Southern Baptist brothers and sisters are talking about how what a wonderful woman she was a virtuous life. She lives how she proclaimed things and she was such an I'm thinking she's a saint. Just say, well,
Dallas Kelley:just can't pray to her right.
Unknown:What's the difference here? I guess that's we're gonna cut it off. And then I won't braid.
Fr. Charles Howell:But that's a great story. I write that down. I worked. I've worked for the last 20 years with a Baptist minister. That means we work in a company right? That's not religious, but well to religious because we're in there, but
Unknown:I had to ask him about the Southern Baptist still. No, no, he's independent northern Baptist. He may scratch his head. I saw the bathroom. He's working on his doctrine, Lottie moon, and he'll light up. I'll do it. I'll do.
Fr. Charles Howell:em. Oh, yeah. Got it. I mean, hey, next week. We don't have a guest. So we're still working on that. I got some ideas. Got some ideas or we'll come up with some
Dallas Kelley:great we're starting to do maybe doing one on an homage and stuff if you
Fr. Charles Howell:Yeah, that'd be good. I'm doing omen. Yeah. No, Watson in you know how that effects effects usually that comes up at RCA. So we can RCA how's that going? worse? Didn't good. Register
Fr. Linh Nguyen:kick right now we have full Kennedy we met already. But good shepherd met even early than us.
Fr. Charles Howell:We could share other things like that, too. Hey, just giving y'all some ideas. So we're gonna
Dallas Kelley:have that man and talk tell about their story, or one or two of them or,
Fr. Charles Howell:yeah, face journeys, man, they make them both. The most interesting part because everybody thinks their face story is unique. And they are but there are some things that kind of weave in to other people's lives. And, and I think it's always good for people to hear a story. There's never a dull face story, even when somebody like Danny followed me last week. So my story's not very good. I thought, though, that episode we had last last week was one of the best episodes we ever had. Right? So good guy. Hey, if you're a follower of good shepherd church on Facebook, Hey, thanks for tuning in, or Thanks for watching. like our page, too, will like your house, it'll be a great trade off about that. For our regular listeners, listeners go just go to Good Shepherd whip website and their Facebook page, like it subscribe, all that good stuff. Another way you can show support for our show, is to go to ss fj.org. That's a short, shortened URL that will take you to our support page where you can do all your online giving Sunday's offering. bishops are not the bishops the annual diocesan annual appeal, you can support this show, click the other box. nobody's done that yet. You could be the first one. And we would probably get a monitor on the wall that works instead of this one here. That doesn't work so but show your support for the churches, whether you're at Good Shepherd or whether it's St. Francis and john now more than ever, the pandemic has affected our ability to, to do things and your financial contributions help us to continue to do what we can. So we thank you for those contributions. Most importantly, tell your friends. Give us a listen. spread the word about the show. Father Charles, would you do us an honoring, give a blessing? Sure.
Unknown:Right and the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. Gracious, loving God, we thank you for this feast day with the church can celebrate Teresa as you are witness a patron saint of missions. Such a real and genuine woman. Just ask interesting questions and found holiness and just ordinary things. May we also find the same thing, Lord in our lives is realizing that you choose each one of us were a path of holiness and you give each one of us a vocation as well. Strengthen your church, everywhere Lord. Our two parishes as we collaborate in so much, our diocese, we pray for our Bishop. Pray for our priests, deacons lay faithful everywhere, Lord, for our children for our schools. It says, Lord to the intercession of Teresa Vizio, and we to truly understand it for baptized. missionaries mean The Blessing of Almighty God the Father and the Son of the Holy Spirit descend upon you and remain with you always. Amen.
Fr. Charles Howell:Great show guys. Until next week, I'm Deacon Tim I'm doing in Dallas. I'm Father Lynn and your Charles. Father Charles. Charles. Good night, everybody.
Unknown:Good night. Did you ever stop and think, well, I spent too much time just getting ready. Then maybe I don't know a single thing that I haven't noticed. When I see you my heart starts racing. I don't know if the light is chasing